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Poll: EU exit or stay?
LEAVE 65 (63.11%)
STAY 38 (36.89%)


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Steve
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The problem isn't the money its the sheer numbers, doesn't matter how much they are adding when you can't see a dr for 3 weeks because of the sheer weight of numbers.

Running out of room for roads, houses, schools etc etc
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https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuofficial/videos/946139178817657/
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I saw one guy made a post waffling something about Europe wouldn't want to trade with us because it would be like a marriage break up whereby they wouldn't out of spite.

Lots of (student type) people liked that. Utter morons.
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quote:
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Running out of room for roads, houses, schools etc etc


That's as much the fault of the British as anyone else, roads are fucked and its not migrants driving.
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No it doesn't, look out the window next time you're on a motorway.
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See previous post re. numbers of foreigners my missus deals with on a weekly basis. Roughly half. Same in Worcester now she has moved to this hospital, so not necessarily demographic.

Road are just one example, and when I'm stuck behind a lorry on my way home, most times than not its a foreign one.


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You are also aware of the percentage of numbers that are taking advantage of hospital services here also?

Basically having a child here, then buggering back off to their country

Observations from the front line, not behind the computer.

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quote:
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most times than not its a foreign one.


My experience (also not a computer) is the opposite.
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How are you voting anyway
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Sending child benefits back to their country, so basically we are going to work, earning money, giving quite a chunk of that to the government to support our country, they give it to foreign people who then send it out of the country.

I'd much rather us be a little island on our own. Am sure we will make it work.
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There is absolutely no chance that we will eave anyway, far too many student types and left apologists in this country
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How are you voting anyway


Leave - I think the arguments to stay based on the EU doing stuff are bunkum, of course they're doing stuff, we're paying them lots of money for the privilege.

Ditto all the laws that they have made to save us from plague and certain hardship, surely just make them yourself in the UK? And not bothered if the Tories won't, the democratic process is bigger than that.

Not even convinced by the trade thing, this is a mutual thing and it is in both the EU and the UK's interest to trade with each other. The suggestion that the EU will impose massive tariffs while also insisting that they can continue to export to the UK doesn't really compute for me.

In fact if anything the weaker pound will help.


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quote:
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There is absolutely no chance that we will eave anyway, far too many student types and left apologists in this country


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I like how Barack Obama says us leaving the EU will make it harder for us to deal with the EU and the US.

The US isn't in the EU and they have this trade, am sure people will still want our stuff and we will want theirs, if they don't sell us anything then maybe we will have to start making it in the UK = more jobs, more taxes and made in ENGLAND
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I've only talked to one person that wants to stay, everyone at work is a leave, my mum and dad are leave, and thats all the people i know
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Surely Ian can hack the voting DB to swing it.

Use psexec or something
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If we leave, does it mean we don't have to play in the Euro football competitions, that'll save us some embarrassment, can concentrate more on practising football
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Genuine question.

If we vote to leave what happens to all the eastern Europeans that are here?
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Suspect most will stay. Especially if they have registered british citizen
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quote:
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Especially if they have registered british citizen


Really steve..Really????
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Yes, don't see the problem. Polish guy at work has become naturalised as a British Citizen
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I don't think either side has done themselves any favours in this debate, it's been pretty embarrassing all round.

Ridiculous scaremongering on one side, and thinly veiled racism and xenophobia on the other.

If I was going to vote on this (I'm not) it would be to stay, if only because independent bodies like the IMF recommend it.
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The IMF don't know, they are still using the same "could happen" arguments as everyone else.

Not to mention they are based in America. The same America that is bizarrely trying to tell us how to vote.
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Not to mention its been reported the IMF have been consistently wrong in the past.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36024492

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/eu-referendum-why-the-economic-consensus-on-brexit-is-flawed-a7057306.html

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quote:
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Yes, don't see the problem. Polish guy at work has become naturalised as a British Citizen


My point is its not like you rock up to the UK and pop into the post office for an application form..

You need to have been a PERMENANT resident for the last 5 years, you must have no serious criminal record and you must be able to prove you are going to continue to live here (family, career etc.)..

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