STEvieXE
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look i dont wanna argue. ive been on this site for about 2.5 years and never had a big argument yet. its just i cant believe that were arguing over something so silly. what can i say to get u to listen. ok u can reprime everything but its a waste of time. u only need to re prime repairs or new panels. trust me u can flat old paint and respray over. thats all im gonna say about it. do things whatever way u want? ill do it the way ive been trained and the way every other painter ive seen and knew has done it
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RickV6
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I'm right I tell ya, I'm right!
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Richie
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hehehehehehehe
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STEvieXE
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rick v6 yeah ur exactly right but the edge of the primer will only eat into the metal and show through into ur paint if theres a hard edge of primer. when ur spot priming u fade it out with the gun when u get to the edge of each stroke. as long as theres no hard edge of primer then itll be fine and ull never see the lines
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RickV6
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ya take things too serious!
Chill out!
[Edited on 20-04-2003 by RickV6]
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street
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STEvieN.I. thats the same way i was trained
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STEvieXE
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thanks street. maybe i do take things to seriously but this is my trade and its my passion. its what makes me like cars
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supacorsa
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you can but for best results you should start from the surface up and it depends on cost so if you dont have the money for a bare metal respray then go for the paint up and the difference will proberley never be noticed bit i think that the quality of a bare metal respray is the best option so i think that u people who blab on that you dont need primer you can spray on the old paint isnt the purpose of primer to give the paint somthing to stick to ????????
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STEvieXE
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m8y this post is done and dusted. theres no point of us arguing anymore coz well never agree on it. so theres no point in starting it up again. im sure kris is fed up to so he can work his way and ill work mine. a bare metal respray isnt required and there would be no difference in quality if the prep work is good enuff. a bare metal respray is only required on something like a classic car.. now as far as im concerned the subjects closed. im sure kris also feels the same way.
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STEvieXE
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just one last point, when u flat the existing paint down then the primer is still there etc so u still have it. as long as u key the surface of the old paint well enough then u wont have a problem. POST OVER
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STEvieXE
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just one last point, when u flat the existing paint down then the primer is still there etc so u still have it. as long as u key the surface of the old paint well enough then u wont have a problem. POST OVER
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Kris TD
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quote:
Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
rick v6 yeah ur exactly right but the edge of the primer will only eat into the metal and show through into ur paint if theres a hard edge of primer. when ur spot priming u fade it out with the gun when u get to the edge of each stroke. as long as theres no hard edge of primer then itll be fine and ull never see the lines
i agree with you here, ive done patches like this and its not noticable.
POST CLOSED
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John_C
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quote:
Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
thank u everyone coz austinpxx or someone is on chatting coz his cars in a bodyshop. i cant believe that we r arguing over something so stupid. this is basic stuff
ur the 1 arguing 
if ur in the profession y r u even arguing 
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Scott
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Registered: 11th Mar 01
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ok, koni and me run Koncept Developments - we do custom bodywork and van painting etc etc
to prep a car for paint the best way to get a good finish is below
prepare the cars surface so its totally flat with no holes etc
panel wipe the car
take panel wipe off the car
tack cloth the car
prime the car
wet flat the car with wet n dry 1200 grit
dry the car
panel wipe the car
take panel wipe from car
tack cloth the car
then paint the car
once painted depending on conditions and painter , u will either get a off the gun finish or will need to do some wet flatting and a polish
but thats how its down
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Richie
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hes gonna scream at you now saying that it doesnt apply for respraying
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Scott
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same process no matter if the cars getitng resprayed or wot , cars shoudl all be done this way
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Richie
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there ya go, straight from the mouth of the professionals 
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Bradz
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BOLLOCKS.
i also run and own my own Bodyshop and have done for many years.
There is MANY Cases where u dont have to prime everything u paint.
for example.
u need a new wing fitted to ur white Corsa, and u buy a second hand wing that is in mint condition and is also white in colour but the wrong shade etc, There is no need to prime the wing providing it aint damaged( no dents, deep scratches etc), it should simply need a flatten down (1200/1500 grit), panel wipe, tacked then painted, absolutly no need to prime in that case.
if the wing had been black however, u would need to prime the wing, u would have difficulties with the paint covering etc, so would need to use say white or biege primer, so the white would cover ok.
THERE ARE MANY CASES U DONT NEED TO PRIME PARTS.
Hope this helps
Bradz
Custom Coach Crafts
Aberdeen
sales@customcoachcrafts.co.uk
tel 07789 196689
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STEvieXE
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thanks bradz/street. im pleased that someone has backed me up. but theres no point in arguing about his anymore. its so simple. fair play to koni/scott they do jobs the way they think is best, same to kris td. fair enuff its a good way to go but not necessary in all cases.
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Xs
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quote:
Originally posted by AustinPXX
there ya go, straight from the mouth of the professionals
Scott a professional LOL 
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Kris TD
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if you had filled patches and just primed bits would you spray the panel in that yellow shit, barcoat? or would you just use that if were using a synthetic paint over celly ?
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STEvieXE
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u mean an isolater? why do u not just use 2 pac? then u wont have to worry? as far as i know (not 100% sure coz we mostly use 2pac) u can paint synthetic overcellulose without having to use an isolater.
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Kris TD
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dad was using it when he was respraying my bros red corsa because it had had a bodge repair job with celly paint and couldnt get hold of flame red 2-pac from our suppliers, only 2k.
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Kris TD
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yeah isolater, same thing.
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RichR
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as long as the whole car is being resprayed and the original layerof primer is intact, then what I'd do is rub down the whoe car, through the wax, laquer and top coat, basically until ur down to the primer layer neway.; before resprayin - u cud if u wanted to spray new top coat from this point - but if I was doing a car myself then Id always reprime neway, an extra layer or 2 of primer wont cause a proble, but yes I agree that in all honesty u dont actually need to re-prime - but its better to do so
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