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DAZ1985
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You really are a blank. Even when someone states you'd need tb's or carbs you say yes got that taper ported tb blaa blaa shit =bhp

What drugs are you taking because they aren't doing you any good. I wish you lived local to me so i could score some shit your taking
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Give up guys, you have as much chance at getting through to him as stephen hawkins has at beating usain bolts 100m record.
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is it me or does he actually know a little bit, i dont know how a guy can know some things and the fuck all
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quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
(ie more retarded than a 10:1 comp engine's ignition timing when running 2 bar of boost on 95 RON fuel)

why not run 97/99 ron fuel

this is what i mean
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quote:Originally posted by chip
To get 150bhp from a 1.4 8v vauxhall engine the main ingredients are:

1]Lairy cam (you dont have this) how do you know what cam i will be running
2] High compression (you dont have this) skimmed cylinder head 0.5 mm
3] Big port job on the head (you dont have this properly enough IMHO) yes
4] Carbs/TB's (you dont have this) 9mm bigger than standard then taper ported 5mm bigger as well
Accurately mapped/jetted fuelling and timing (you dont have this) yes

4] the standard internal size throttle body is 35mm and then changed to a 44mm internal size throttle body this means it is now 9mm bigger than standard, then taper ported the 44mm internal size throttle body to 49mm then this makes it now 49mm so this would mean that now the throttle body is 15mm bigger than the 35 mm internal size throttle body and yes the inlet manifold where the throttle body bolts on to is also 49mm internal size,
the ecu learns the new set up as you drive on the road this takes between 50miles and 150 miles depending on how you drive and as for the jetted fuelling this can be done a few ways either change to a bigger injector or you can adjust the tps sensor for fine fuelling and the adjustable fpr for delivering more fuel though the same size injector and as for the timing you advance or retard the distributor

2] at the mo the cylinder head has 0.5mm/ 20 thou skimmed of the cylinder head and might get some more skimmed off

3] the cylinder head has been ported the exhaust ports are 38mm inside diameter and the inlet ports had most of the work done above the valve head and the inlet port entrance has been lined up with the inside area of the inlet manifold gasket, if you make the inlet ports to big then you loose velocity then this means the engine will only work in the upper rpm range or not work at all

1] how do you know what cam i will be running this is for me to know
[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]

5] 1 litre to 1.6 litre engine you only need to change the exhaust valve 1mm
bigger in size and leave the inlet valve the standard size.

6] To give an accurate reading of what the car is doing on a dyno you need to generate a large airflow to replicate as near as possible the conditions on the open road. To this end we have installed the highest airflow dyno cell in the UK. Four one metre radial fans generate a combined airflow of over 120,000cfm (cubic feet per minute). road dyno ftw

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35 + 19 =49?
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Nice edit
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny_v6
Nice edit


well spotted
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well spotted= thanks.
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny_v6
well spotted= thanks.



thank you,thank you,
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
(ie more retarded than a 10:1 comp engine's ignition timing when running 2 bar of boost on 95 RON fuel)

why not run 97/99 ron fuel

this is what i mean


it should be running 97ron to 99 ron then this means the fuel burns more even in the cylinder ie flame front and gives more bhp
DAZ1985
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It wont give you extra bhp on your car though 20valver if thats what your implying?
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
It wont give you extra bhp on your car though 20valver if thats what your implying?


tried both 95 ron and 97 ron petrol, with 97 ron fuel the motor pulled better through the gears cruised better and used less petrol and this is the same for any engine

[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]
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Do you have proof it made more bhp?
DAZ1985
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I very much doubt he has
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by Danny_v6
Do you have proof it made more bhp?


97 ron fuel the motor pulled better through the gears cruised better and used less petrol and this is the same for any engine
20valver
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
I very much doubt he has


have you tried using different ron fuels


[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]
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look at this link
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/tuning/Fuel_Test_Results.shtml


[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]
DAZ1985
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quote:
Originally posted by 20valver
quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
I very much doubt he has


have you tried using different ron fuels


[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]


I have yes, thats why i said it wouldn't make a difference to your car

Its more turbo'd cars that use the extra ron stuff
DAZ1985
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Its now starting to become more clear why you claim 150bhp

higher ron fuel = 5bhp
ebay resistor = 5 bhp
for everthing else theirs 20valver
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So you dont have proof then, thought so.
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quote:
Originally posted by mobby
is it me or does he actually know a little bit, i dont know how a guy can know some things and the fuck all


Saturn is 821,199,346 miles from Earth.

You don't have to be an expert to use google mate.
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If he is so sure of his claims then why won,t he post a rolling road print out, but that might kill his little story stone dead , if it does make what he claims I will be the first to buy him a beer for his efforts.
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quote:
Originally posted by DAZ1985
Its now starting to become more clear why you claim 150bhp

higher ron fuel = 5bhp = 8 bhp,up to 40 bhp on some cars
ebay resistor = 5 bhp = no
for everthing else theirs 20valver


To give an accurate reading of what the car is doing on a dyno you need to generate a large airflow to replicate as near as possible the conditions on the open road. To this end we have installed the highest airflow dyno cell in the UK. Four one metre radial fans generate a combined airflow of over 120,000cfm (cubic feet per minute).

[Edited on 02-10-2008 by 20valver]
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quote:
Originally posted by alan-g-w
quote:
Originally posted by mobby
is it me or does he actually know a little bit, i dont know how a guy can know some things and the fuck all


Saturn is 821,199,346 miles from Earth.

You don't have to be an expert to use google mate.


and the sun is 93 million miles from earth

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