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DAZ1985
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3rd Jul 07 at 07:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im just at work and a guy i know has asked me if i can help him

He says that his engine (x10xe) is making a noise, becomes worse when hot

A load tapping noise that gets louder as you rev it, i havent heard it myself yet this is just what i've been told

I suggested either tappets, or timing chain

Any other ideas ???
BeArDy
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3rd Jul 07 at 07:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

where the noise coming from?
bottom end or top

Go listen to it............
DAZ1985
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3rd Jul 07 at 07:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I havent had chance to listen to it beardy its his mrs car and hes not come in work in it.

If its from the bottom it could be ????

If its from the top it could be ????

Fro
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3rd Jul 07 at 07:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

think deano87 was having a similar problem with he 1.0. Was to do with the chain or something I think

Could drop him a u2u or wait until he comes on
DAZ1985
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3rd Jul 07 at 07:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im in no rush tbh fro ill wait till he comes on. does he come on much?
Fro
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He's usually on at least once a day but i think he is in France at the mo, he has been on since being out there though
12vMatt
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could well be the timing chain mine rattled loads before i changed the oil.
givbe it an oil change and see if that helps it
DAZ1985
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im assuming recommended is 10w40 semi for this engine?

80k miles
Warren G
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needs a new timing chain tensioner - theres reworked ones out

but a new timing chain cures the noise too (do to old chain is worn but tensioner is too weak and cant adjust to wear causing rattling
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3rd Jul 07 at 19:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its not always constant though the noise is intermitant.

Chain and tensioner easy to do ?
Warren G
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3rd Jul 07 at 19:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whole side casing off
DAZ1985
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Yeah i assumed that, how i should have said it is "is it as easy as a belt on a 20xe?"
Warren G
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well, take the engine mount off, then waterpump then side casing, im 99% you dont affect the timing when doing it.

you may have to lower the sump (to get the side casing off), i cant remeber tbh though
DAZ1985
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Sorted cheers warren, whats it worth (plus parts?)
Warren G
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tensioner is about £30 plus a water pump and side casing gaskets and maybe sump of you have to remove it
DAZ1985
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£70 in parts then roughly?
Warren G
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around that probley
DAZ1985
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And how much labour should i charge?
csweatherston
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if its noisy you need to replace the shoes it runs on too....
and yes you need to drop the sump - i did one a few hours ago.
Warren G
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Field Remedy: 1818
Subject: Family-0-Engines (MY98-2004) - Rattling Noise from Timing Chain
Models: Engines: Option:
Agila 2000...2003,Corsa-B 1997...2003,Corsa-C 2001...2003 Z10XE| Z12XE,X10XE| X12XE,Z10XE| Z12XE
Complaint: In isolated cases a rattling noise after higher mileage (40.000-50.000 km) can be noticed when engine is warm. Additionally a noise can be detected when warm engine is shut off.
Cause: Limited working stroke of timing chain tensioner if timing chain elongation is exceeded
Production: An improved timing chain tensioner (extended working stroke) was introduced as of MY 04.

Remedy:
In case of customer complaint replace timing chain tensioner by improved tensioner (part/ cat-No 55352909/ 5636457).

FunctionalGroup: J - Engine
Complaint Group: 14 - Noises or Vibrations
Trouble Code:
DAZ1985
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That sound like just the thing warrren

 
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