Joe
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yawn
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topshot_2k
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Originally posted by SportyBoy
only car i would consider owning out of all them is a 306 gti
good lad. but drive a 172 cup around a track and then tell me its boring 
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Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by Robin
TBF, a powerful X16XE makes rubbish torque too 
Fair point, but the 9k honda engine makes about the same torque a standard 105bhp vauxhall engine makes at 6k revs.....
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Robin
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What has that got to do with the ECOTEC engines in all fairness?
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Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by joe6886
yawn
Yawn?
Sorry, i got the idea this thread was about the discussion of the 1600 16v engine
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SportBoy
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it got bloody and messy in the middle 
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Joe
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Originally posted by Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by joe6886
yawn
Yawn?
Sorry, i got the idea this thread was about the discussion of the 1600 16v engine
I have no problem with the topic, its the fact that we were talking about a VAUXHALL engine and somehow we managed to get to talking about french hatches.
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topshot_2k
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its a standard small block engine. not exactly exciting or the most reliable. it does the job and can be made a bit more pokey.
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Vaux Lad
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quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
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Originally posted by Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by joe6886
yawn
Yawn?
Sorry, i got the idea this thread was about the discussion of the 1600 16v engine
I have no problem with the topic, its the fact that we were talking about a VAUXHALL engine and somehow we managed to get to talking about french hatches.
Ah right, i see your point.
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topshot_2k
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quote:
Originally posted by joe6886
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Originally posted by Vaux Lad
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Originally posted by joe6886
yawn
Yawn?
Sorry, i got the idea this thread was about the discussion of the 1600 16v engine
I have no problem with the topic, its the fact that we were talking about a VAUXHALL engine and somehow we managed to get to talking about french hatches.
just comparison to gauge how good the engine is I.e against the civic, renault, pug, ford engines
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CorsaKen1
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I have an 1.6 16v ecotech engine in the astra - no complaints from me, espically compared to my old 1.2 corsa - but if it is as bad as people say thankgod I have a 3 year warranty
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topshot_2k
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not that bad tbh. just not as good as other 1.6 engines
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Vaux Lad
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Ive had no probs with mine at all.
Yet
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Corsa E-Tec
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loved me X14XE, had it for nearly 2 years, when i first got it, was always checking water and oil every 2 weeks for the first 6 months then gave up as it was always at the same level, never broke down once.
on me second and thats a C16XE at 120,000 miles, never broken down, uses a bit of oil and water but not too much.
over all i have not bad word about them
[Edited on 25-06-2007 by Corsa E-Tec]
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Dave A
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fantastic engines when you compare with other manufacturers attempts.
designed by Lotus and used massively in motorsport, huge success in rallying and very very strong from standard. Mine has been revving to over 8000 rpm for 12k miles pushing over 170 bhp and hasnt missed a beat. Im currently building one that will see 200bhp and im confident it will be just as reliable as before.
The problem lies not with the engine itself but the inlet design fitted by vauxhall. without that it would have been the best 1.6 built in the last 2o years. the experts at Track and race car magazine agree.
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topshot_2k
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without the restrictive inlet how would it be better than say the VTS saxo engine 1.6 16v engine?
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Dave A
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stronger and more reliable, cheaper to get big power, better head design.....
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Robin
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Because it would make 150bhp, as Lotus found when they were developing it, the cams and inlet fitted were there to choke the engine, same as Cosworth had to do with the Sierra engine, that made 300bhp when they bolted it together and they had to work to lower the output.
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Rob B
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i dont agree with that.. your engine dave waas eating loads of oil was it not after a rebuild ? and 1.6 16v TU lumps are far more stronger
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topshot_2k
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but cams, inlet and remap wont see 150bhp. i had them plus exhaust, decat, manifold and made under 140bhp.
VTS engine makes that with exhaust, decat, manifold, ind kit
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Robin
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OK, it's shit then, PSA did it better, nothing is as good.
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Rob B
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id say honda engines are better, id say the TU lump is the next best of the 1.6's just the bits that go with it arnt as good.
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
but cams, inlet and remap wont see 150bhp. i had them plus exhaust, decat, manifold and made under 140bhp.
erm, yes it will I have dne it myself. A mate of mine has a nova with a x16xe on a mantzel with cams and management and it makes 160+ bhp. it all depends who builds it and maps it.
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topshot_2k
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must be optomistic roller then.
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Robin
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Mine would have made 150 with cams and another remap, so would broster's, and we had the 8 foot black plastic inlet 
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