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WATSON
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12th Jun 06 at 13:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have a very big problem with my computer at the moment

i cant keep it on for more than 2 hours max as it gets to hot.. I have hovverd all fans ect everything inside the case and still over heats

What could be the problem?

Has been like this for the past few weeks now

[Edited on 17-06-2006 by WATSON]
Liam
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12th Jun 06 at 13:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Maybe invest in some more fans to cool it down, tbh i would think its becasue of the weather we've been having, wont do much for them being on for very long
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12th Jun 06 at 13:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Put in more fans or take off the side of the case. Could be some sort of hardware problem causing so much heat.

Are the fans running and turned the right way around? You want them blowing the air out.
John
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12th Jun 06 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Could be the thermal paste between the heatsink and processor.
Hot weather isn't really a good enough excuse imo.
How do computers in places with much more heat than us for longer in the year survive?
WATSON
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12th Jun 06 at 14:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have 2 fans one built into the power supply and 1 on something else not to clued up when it comes to stuff inside computers

Where the computer is its always cool so cant see the weather been a problem with the temp of the computer

I though about taken off the case but though the dust ect might cause problems..

Is there some sort of way i could find out what temp the computers running at so i know that iam not in any danger of blowing up the computer?

I used to be able to run my computer for days even weeks without heat problems

Fans are all running have done a check on them all turns fine ect
WATSON
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12th Jun 06 at 14:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Away to have another poke about inside the computer as its very hot at the moment

God damn computers
John
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12th Jun 06 at 14:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

motherboard monitor used to be the prog for temperature monitoring but the site seems to be down and I know the guy stopped developing it ages ago.
I'm sure somebody will be able to tell you whats the best thing now.
How did you know it was overheating if you dont' know the temps?
Cybermonkey
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12th Jun 06 at 15:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i sorted my PC out when i got to aus, better HSF, better case fan, decent thermal paste and my CPU temps dont go above 55 on a 40+ day
WATSON
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12th Jun 06 at 15:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Found out that my power supply is the problem thats where all the heat was

Have had a wee poke about and there was ALOT of dust in there so thats all gone now So hope thats the problem sorted

John my computer case got to the stage that it was VERY hot so i new there was a problem

Soon as i have some cash al sort out a new case and get some better fans or may even just get that watercooler thingy

WATSON
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12th Jun 06 at 16:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Fuckin heap of shit thing is still over heatin like a cunt
Bart
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13th Jun 06 at 07:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol.

you havent said how its overheating?
do you mean the case is too hot to touch, or its overheating and crashing?

you can get some half decent cheap fans from http://www.thecoolingshop.com/

make sure you have atleast one 120mm fan on the back of the machine and one at the front and that they are both running well.

something like one of these should help dissipate most of the heat.

I have a similar problem, except mine is self inflicted. i have my PC in a neat little cuboard (i dont shut the door when its on).

So ive had to install a deep 230v mains fan on the back of the PC which i manually switch on/off when i use the computer, it shifts loads of air and is extremly quiet.
WATSON
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13th Jun 06 at 16:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Case is too hot to touch And it starts to run very slow when hot aswell.
Cybermonkey
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14th Jun 06 at 07:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Watson, your CPU is probably throttling back because of temps, hence the slow speed. tried running it with the case open? check fan speeds and air flow direction. this could be simply because a fan is facing the wrong way, blowing air in at the wrong spot and creating a heat spot
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stick it in the fridge for a bit
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all good points here.

check the fans to make sure they are working
check the fans to make sure they are blowing air in the right direction

CABLE TIE! your cables up to improve airflow in your case

Ensure the CPU is attached properly and thats coolign down okay...

How many drives and stuff are you running? Mayeb its tiem to invest in a new big case?
WATSON
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17th Jun 06 at 12:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Going to be a computer shop job i think Still cant ge over the problem

Also have noticed when i do a Ctrl Alt Delete i have 100%CPU usage non stop with nothing running aswell
WATSON
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17th Jun 06 at 16:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Found a program called "speedfan" check temp ect change the speed of the fans and all that stuff



Done a print screen of what temps my computer is running at Them dont look safe to me?
Bart
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17th Jun 06 at 17:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

87 sounds slightly too hot for a newish CPU.

new CPUs i would expect to be a fair bit below 50C.
but thats normal for a slightly older CPU.
have you got a fan at the front and back of pc case?
John
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17th Jun 06 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I'd check the heatsink on the cpu.
Unless the cpu is faulty it would never get to that temperature if the hsf was on properly.
I'd do it sooner rather than later though because you don't look to have a shutdown on overheat.
WATSON
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17th Jun 06 at 19:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The computers about 2years old

heatsink? whats that

I have the case off the computer now and have a mains fan behind the computer

Still running about 77/80

Going to take the computer to the shop next week as the problem with the 100%CPU and maybe get a few more fans inside the computer ect

Bloody more money

[Edited on 17-06-2006 by WATSON]
John
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17th Jun 06 at 19:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats using 100%cpu?
The heatsink and fan are the ones that will be roughly in the middle of the case and keep the processor cool.
If you dont' know what you're doing I would just take it to a shop though yes.
WATSON
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17th Jun 06 at 19:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nothing that i can see of.. i only have msn and the internet running

Even when on startup its at 100% aswell

Yeah i do see a large kind of fan in the middle inside the case will take it to shop tho and get them to replace the heatsink if they can

How much do you think it is for them to replace one?
John
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17th Jun 06 at 19:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Depending on what one you buy they are about a tenner. How much you will be charged by a shop though I coudlnt' tell you.
How do you know cpu is running 100% if you don't know whats running at 100%?
It's not the system idle process is it?
WATSON
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17th Jun 06 at 22:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

CPU Usage 100%
PF Usage 204mb
Process 39

Cybermonkey
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18th Jun 06 at 06:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

39 processes i suspect there is some spyware shit on there, get adaware and spybot S&D, run them and see if they find any crap that could cause 100% CPU usage, also, you may want to think about a fresh install of windows XP

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