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Sam
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If you have a wireless broadband router, and there are two laptops connected to it (one via wireless the other on ethernet cable), can the wireless laptop (which can also access admin features on the router by wireless or ethernet connection) track what sites etc. the other laptop is using and stuff?
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you would really need to install something on the laptop that you want to monitor.

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im not to sure dont use wireless stuf but a router will only send info to the port that requested it and the hub admin would not keep that sort of info
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So you can't use something that analyses network traffic ie. from IP addresses and that?
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Nothing in my BT Voyger instructions
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you can get softwere to do it but there is nothing standard with the equiptment that will do it
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its just the same as it would be if it was on a norm hub, just install some sort of logging software on the laptop you want to monitor, or just enable file sharing and keep a check on the history.

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get some proxy software, there is a free one kicking around but i forget the name of it
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Depends if its a switched connection or not, its unlikely that you'll see communication between the router and laptop but you could of course check your internet connection at the external facing side and what isn't your own belongs to that computer.


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dont listen to Ian he knows nothing.
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i have a question regarding wireless router aswell please (sorry to hijack)
I have pc with network card connected to router with cable and then laptop running wireless

stupid question but will this setup work?

Also does one have to connect first to allow the other one to?
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If your router has wired and wireless capability then it doesn't usually matter which you use, all machines on the same network (however that is achieved) all route in the same way.

They're completely independent, just both relying in the same router for connection so no, one computer does not need to wait for the other (well, they do, but it happens so quick you'll never know )

[Edited on 03-02-2005 by Ian]


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your wireless receiver might be able to be plugged in to your old skool router.
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when conecting you talking about internet connection.

the first pc would have to be on to allow internet connection for the laptop.

[Edited on 03-02-2005 by Corsa E-Tec]
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yes it is wired and wireless router

all i have managed to do so far is fit network card to pc and install software and switch my laptop on

Stil waiting for broadband to be activated
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa E-Tec
the first pc would have to be on to allow internet connection for the laptop.
Not at all, assuming the router authenticates successfully, both computers just route through it independently.


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i am stressed

although am impressed that i managed to create a new internet connection on this laptop and actually get on the net
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quote:
Originally posted by Corsa E-Tec
when conecting you talking about internet connection.

the first pc would have to be on to allow internet connection for the laptop.

[Edited on 03-02-2005 by Corsa E-Tec]


you talking about a connection running through a gateway/proxy pc ie: laptop connects to pc with two nics. One nic goes to broadband etc

With a router setup, every computer is connected to the router and acts like that "always switched on pc your talking about", therefore no pc is needed to be left on for the other(s) to use the internet connection

back to topic, easiest answer is no - neither one of the machines can see each other in terms of information being sent to each other. However, there are obviously ways of doing either via software(would mean something having to be installed like sub7 etc) or via a connection inbetween the cable modem and router/switch and simple network packet software could "sniff" out whats being sent etc etc

But no, your porn stash on your pc is safe from your parents
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OK cheers for the info people.

 
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