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Adam_B
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14th Mar 04 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
cars just started to misfire.

so got it home had a look at the spark plugs and 2 of them are covered in oil, this meeans the piston rings are fried yes?
Adam-D
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14th Mar 04 at 16:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
oil on plugs
worn bores/piston rings or valve guides
Kerry
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or a hole in the piston.
Adam_B
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14th Mar 04 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
approximatly how much would it cost to fix at a garage?

new rings that is

[Edited on 14-03-2004 by Adam_B]
Kerry
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i think you are talkin labour here mate price of rings iirc are not that expensive
Adam_B
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yep, surely not that expensive tho. Sump off, crank out, drop pistons down, replace rings, then slap it all back together it sounds so easy
Kerry
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do it then

i once had probs with me sxi and took head off there was bits of ring all over the place

i just got another bottom end
Adam_B
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i have nowhere to do it tho.
Kerry
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have a word with beardy
AdamF
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
yep, surely not that expensive tho. Sump off, crank out, drop pistons down, replace rings, then slap it all back together it sounds so easy


dont we all wish it was that easy
AdamF
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also you have to take head off to get pistons out
PaulW
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I know one lad who was charged £550 for new rings on a 1.2 clio...
Adam_B
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ouch
AdamF
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good price that mate
Adam_B
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fuck that, new engine be cheaper
Mo
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unlucky adam.

too much ragging **cough, cough**
AdamF
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam_B
fuck that, new engine be cheaper


unforunatly so mate. least you can buy basic block and head and swap all ancilleries over
Adam-D
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http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/WWW/CARS_popup.asp?modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&make=VAUXHALL&model=ASTRA&min_pr=75&max_pr=500&postcode=me8+8dn&miles=1500&max_records=200&source=0&sort=5&ukcarsearch_full=SEARCH&start=9&distance=228&adcategory=CARS&channel=CARS&id=200409130776088
miles
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You could do it with the head on if you dropped the crank, but it would be much easier to leave the crank in situ and take the head off. In saying that wont you need a hone as well?

Which 2 plugs are fouled? Isn't it unlikely that 2 would go together? Couldn't it be overfueling or non firing in those cylinders or head gasket failure?
Adam_B
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14th Mar 04 at 17:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
3 and 4, i looked in the haynes book and they look identical to the oil fouling ones

[Edited on 14-03-2004 by Adam_B]
miles
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Could well be failed head gasket between cylinder 3 and 4. I'd look into it before I started to buy new engines or taking the bottom end apart.
Adam_B
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how would i find a failed gasket?
Adam-D
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compresion test
they arent exprensive
Adam-D
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£20 from http://www.draper.co.uk
type in compresion tester an

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