djgritt
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Some Saab 9-3 Aeros and all 9-3 Turbo-X used the 2.8 V6T
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--ToM--
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With revised chain set ups
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CORSA NUT
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Didn't realise you were so close to me Tom I'm only around the corner in Belmont Drive 
I'll have to do a drive by and see it in the flesh  always had a soft spot for these add my mate who's owned nearly every car under the sun inc M3's etc really rated his!
Always thought I'd want an Arden Blue too but the red looks spot on. Noticed you've got access to a workshop? That your work? If you ever need a garage to work in your more than welcome to use mine as I haven't got a decent car anymore so it doesn't get used properly  only thing I haven't got is ramps
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--ToM--
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Hi mate! I'm on Milner road in guessing the chiropdy shop gave away where I live anyway haha, have to call round some time and I'll take you for a blast in it!
Thanks for the offer mate iv now got an empty garage at home now iv sold my cav and also the workshop is where I work and my step dad has a garage in Birkenhead I have access too as well so no shortage of places to work now lol
Definitely be good to meet you mate!
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MikeF86
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Vauxhall quote £2000 for labour? No chance!!! Other than Chains (which are few and far between) we don't see many problems with these and it's fairly straight forward to retro-fit parts. If you need parts, I'm happy to look at prices on Gen stuff. Likewise if you need working instructions etc.....
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--ToM--
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Apparently so and iv heard this from s few people on various other forums who have gone to them for help and either been declined it or quoted silly money, could just be Internet scaring,
Either way I managed to source gen GM parts from the states in the end, I'll take you up on the offer of instructions though!
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MikeF86
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Nah, definite Internet story is that! What do you need?
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--ToM--
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Auto data on the timing chain replacement job?
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--ToM--
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Well little update ! The reason I bought the Car arrived earlier!
My son was born at 18.27 today and weighed 9lb 7oz the fatty lol
Made up!
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Marc
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I thought the badges looked good on the back!
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CORSA NUT
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Originally posted by --ToM--
Hi mate! I'm on Milner road in guessing the chiropdy shop gave away where I live anyway haha, have to call round some time and I'll take you for a blast in it!
Thanks for the offer mate iv now got an empty garage at home now iv sold my cav and also the workshop is where I work and my step dad has a garage in Birkenhead I have access too as well so no shortage of places to work now lol
Definitely be good to meet you mate!
Yeah I recognised the chiropody place  sounds like you have got plenty of space! I just don't get to use mine as I can't really afford the luxury of a nice motor now and don't like either of our cars to bother modding them
Where abouts do you work??
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MikeF86
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Auto data on the timing chain replacement job?
Can get you repair instructions of TIS if you want? What's your email, will see what I can do tomorrow.
Congrats on the news, had a girl 9 weeks ago! Best thing in the world! Bloody difficult mind!
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CORSA NUT
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Holy shit missed the bit about the baby!  congratulations dude
Our girl was 4 today and the wife is 10 weeks gone with the next.
Mike the first 6 months are a piece of piss mate  wait till she gets moving
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Jed D
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what differences have you found from the saab version of this engine and the vec/sig version?
nice looking motor, any power increase plans? i can imagine these z28nets being capable of serious power with a lot thrown at them, just nice to know the weak spots as with every engine
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--ToM--
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Originally posted by --ToM--
Hi mate! I'm on Milner road in guessing the chiropdy shop gave away where I live anyway haha, have to call round some time and I'll take you for a blast in it!
Thanks for the offer mate iv now got an empty garage at home now iv sold my cav and also the workshop is where I work and my step dad has a garage in Birkenhead I have access too as well so no shortage of places to work now lol
Definitely be good to meet you mate!
Yeah I recognised the chiropody place sounds like you have got plenty of space! I just don't get to use mine as I can't really afford the luxury of a nice motor now and don't like either of our cars to bother modding them
Where abouts do you work??
Work at Cheshire classic cars in Chester mate as a technician! That's why I bought the vxr just before the baby was born as it's my last chance to have something decent before family life takes over lol
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--ToM--
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
what differences have you found from the saab version of this engine and the vec/sig version?
nice looking motor, any power increase plans? i can imagine these z28nets being capable of serious power with a lot thrown at them, just nice to know the weak spots as with every engine
Not a lot really primearily the same although Saab did their usual and threw all the gm parts in the bin and used their own I.e chains etc, other than than that their the same, the chains are the only bad point once there done there's no other major issues with them to look out for, major ones anyway , they like to use ignition coils a lot and spark plugs but that's noting really!
Out the box there fast I was shock how well it performs in standard for, a remap wil see over 300bhp and over 400lbf of torque and minimal mods and a map will get it closer to 400 and over 500lbft
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Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by --ToM--
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Originally posted by Jed D
what differences have you found from the saab version of this engine and the vec/sig version?
nice looking motor, any power increase plans? i can imagine these z28nets being capable of serious power with a lot thrown at them, just nice to know the weak spots as with every engine
Not a lot really primearily the same although Saab did their usual and threw all the gm parts in the bin and used their own I.e chains etc, other than than that their the same, the chains are the only bad point once there done there's no other major issues with them to look out for, major ones anyway , they like to use ignition coils a lot and spark plugs but that's noting really!
Out the box there fast I was shock how well it performs in standard for, a remap wil see over 300bhp and over 400lbf of torque and minimal mods and a map will get it closer to 400 and over 500lbft
yeah, iv read they like to do a few of the basic sensors in too...
whats the power differences between the engines in saab and vaux and isnt there a less restricted version in one of the later insignia's or am i just thinking about the speed limit set..?
really nice looking car btw, iv currently got an 07 estate but its just a 120hp diesel for daily use/towing the corsa... had one before and ended up with another... as for vec c's only issues other than dual mass is the rear calipers like to pack up and the lecky window switches are a little temperamental sometimes
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djgritt
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quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
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Originally posted by --ToM--
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Originally posted by Jed D
what differences have you found from the saab version of this engine and the vec/sig version?
nice looking motor, any power increase plans? i can imagine these z28nets being capable of serious power with a lot thrown at them, just nice to know the weak spots as with every engine
Not a lot really primearily the same although Saab did their usual and threw all the gm parts in the bin and used their own I.e chains etc, other than than that their the same, the chains are the only bad point once there done there's no other major issues with them to look out for, major ones anyway , they like to use ignition coils a lot and spark plugs but that's noting really!
Out the box there fast I was shock how well it performs in standard for, a remap wil see over 300bhp and over 400lbf of torque and minimal mods and a map will get it closer to 400 and over 500lbft
yeah, iv read they like to do a few of the basic sensors in too...
whats the power differences between the engines in saab and vaux and isnt there a less restricted version in one of the later insignia's or am i just thinking about the speed limit set..?
really nice looking car btw, iv currently got an 07 estate but its just a 120hp diesel for daily use/towing the corsa... had one before and ended up with another... as for vec c's only issues other than dual mass is the rear calipers like to pack up and the lecky window switches are a little temperamental sometimes
Saab/GM versions all quote the same power values - there are 3-4 versions ranging from 230-280bhp IIRC.
The Insignia had a speed limiter than was able to be removed with an option when bought. The Insignia 2.8Ts are all a little bit more powerful than the Vectras.
You don't hear much of Sensor issues on these - other than Chains, they seem pretty solid.
Coils/Plugs can be an issue, but it's not exactly a specific issue as it happens to other cars/models - HT systems degrade over time/with use anyway, it's to be expected.
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Jed D
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with the chain problem, is it not just a case of an oil squirter that blocks up if not maintained/oil change regular enough... similar issue that the z22se's suffer from
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djgritt
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No, it appears to be material failure/fatigue.
Cars with good service history/low miles have suffered as as well as ragged/abused high milers.
There is no pattern to failure - standard and modified examples have both suffered, low and high mileages.
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CORSA NUT
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quote:
Originally posted by --ToM--
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Originally posted by CORSA NUT
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Originally posted by --ToM--
Hi mate! I'm on Milner road in guessing the chiropdy shop gave away where I live anyway haha, have to call round some time and I'll take you for a blast in it!
Thanks for the offer mate iv now got an empty garage at home now iv sold my cav and also the workshop is where I work and my step dad has a garage in Birkenhead I have access too as well so no shortage of places to work now lol
Definitely be good to meet you mate!
Yeah I recognised the chiropody place sounds like you have got plenty of space! I just don't get to use mine as I can't really afford the luxury of a nice motor now and don't like either of our cars to bother modding them
Where abouts do you work??
Work at Cheshire classic cars in Chester mate as a technician! That's why I bought the vxr just before the baby was born as it's my last chance to have something decent before family life takes over lol
Can't believe you work there! I'll PM you
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Jed D
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A28NEL insignia engine is the quicker one so im being told... 325bhp, different injectors, different ecu...
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--ToM--
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Originally posted by djgritt
No, it appears to be material failure/fatigue.
Cars with good service history/low miles have suffered as as well as ragged/abused high milers.
There is no pattern to failure - standard and modified examples have both suffered, low and high mileages.
And cars with full Vauxhall service history also failing at low milesge so definitely not down to dodgy oil grades or lack of maintenance lol
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--ToM--
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Originally posted by Jed D
A28NEL insignia engine is the quicker one so im being told... 325bhp, different injectors, different ecu...
Yeah but you can chuck insignia injectors in your vxr and map it to more than that too!
And as djgritt will tell you aswell , with these it's not bhp figures that's the fun part it's the torque they pull like trains
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Jed D
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i can imagine
[Edited on 17-02-2015 by Jed D]
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