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James

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25th Sep 13 at 14:07

I had some panels cut out of the ceiling when my new boiler was installed.

The cutouts have been screwed back in, but obviously there is a gap around there where they were cut out.

What do I need to use to fill this gap? Can I just use Polyfilla, or should I use something more specialist?

RichR

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25th Sep 13 at 14:37

can you get a photo? How big a gap are you talking?

James

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25th Sep 13 at 14:45

If you imagine cutting a square of ceiling out, then putting it back in the hole that it came out of, there would be a gap. It's only about 3mm.

RichR

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25th Sep 13 at 14:51

Plasterboard?

Dave

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25th Sep 13 at 14:51

Go over the lot with easi fill, then sand smooth.

James

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25th Sep 13 at 15:22

Yep plasterboard.

RichR

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25th Sep 13 at 15:31

As Dave says but be careful that on occasion with the surrounding plaster and easi-fill being different densities, you can end up with a nightmare trying to sand it down.

Its not the best way of repairing plasterboard, whether it be a ceiling or wall though, how have they secured the cut section back in?

[Edited on 25-09-2013 by LiVe LeE]

James

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25th Sep 13 at 15:37

It's screwed into the wooden ceiling joist above.

RichR

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25th Sep 13 at 15:47

Can you move it at all? Is it a rigid repair or does it have movement in it. If it does move, you might be better using caulk as its flexible.

James

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25th Sep 13 at 16:19

I will double check. I don't think it will move easily, it's pretty firmly screwed in.

AndyKent

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25th Sep 13 at 16:22

Filler, paint, sorted.

Ojc

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26th Sep 13 at 20:10

Caulk it, flexible.

Dave

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26th Sep 13 at 20:16

You'll struggle to make something like that neat with caulk, plus it doesn't need to be flexible. Just easi fill over the lot and rub it down, if you don't get it right first time you just throw a bit more on and sand again. Trust me, I've seen it done this way dozens of times, you'd be amazed how often fresh plaster has to be cut into because an electrician has lost a wire, this is the way the repair it and, done right, you can't tell.

Gary

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26th Sep 13 at 20:19

How many 'panels'? Might be easier to skim over the whole ceiling maybe?

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26th Sep 13 at 21:03

Get it skimmed perhaps. Plastering is cheap.

If not I used easi fill recently for the first time on plasterboard. Was easy enough

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John

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26th Sep 13 at 21:10

Agree with Dave, easi fill and paint. Easi fill sands better than pollyfilla. You'd be amazed at what you can cover up if you spend time sanding it flush.

James

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27th Sep 13 at 07:59

quote:
Originally posted by Gary
How many 'panels'? Might be easier to skim over the whole ceiling maybe?

Probably about 4 small panels, but 3 of them are in the airing cupboard, so I'll only fill one of them which is in the hallway.

RichR

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27th Sep 13 at 08:19

Dave, that's not the way to make that kind of repair full stop. You'd never flush in the same piece and you'd simply not do it this way, however as its on a joist, James hasn't really got much choice.

You can skim in a patch repair without the need to plaster out the whole ceiling as well. One job I've picked up is following a spark round repairing anywhere he has to cut out.

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28th Sep 13 at 17:37

If it's around an edge I'd caulk it, if you can't get it tidy you aren't doing it right.

Gary

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28th Sep 13 at 18:04

You must be a bit good to patch over cutting out rich. I don't k ow anyone who'd entertain patching in stuff like that as you can always tell it's been done.

RichR

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29th Sep 13 at 08:17

All down to prep; cut out the damage to a squared of section, cleat in a fresh piece of board on the reverse side, bond out until you're 3/4mm from the original surface, then switch to finish and bring in layers-the second wetter than the first. Most important thing is to not bring any PVA, bond or finish onto the original surface but using the surrounding ceiling as a guide for troweling in.

I'll punch a hole in a wall when I start plastering downstairs just for you

Gary

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29th Sep 13 at 08:30

fair enough

RichR

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29th Sep 13 at 08:56

The problem most people creat for themselves is skimming outside of the repair and trying to blend it in by feathering it over a larger area or tryin to repair a circular hole cut with a hole saw-trowels are square, they don't work I circles so cutting out to a square is the only way to make a decent repair; that and it can't be wider than your trowel; it can be the full length of a wall so long as it's not wider than the trowel you're using.

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15th Oct 13 at 09:55

quote:
Originally posted by LiVe LeE
The problem most people creat for themselves is skimming outside of the repair and trying to blend it in by feathering it over a larger area or tryin to repair a circular hole cut with a hole saw-trowels are square, they don't work I circles so cutting out to a square is the only way to make a decent repair; that and it can't be wider than your trowel; it can be the full length of a wall so long as it's not wider than the trowel you're using.

what about when it dries and shrinks? will you not see the line around the hole seeing as you havent gone onto the origional plaster.

RichR

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15th Oct 13 at 18:14

Your building it up with bonding not finish; the finish at 2-3mm thickness shouldn't crack-plus with decent prep, there's no reason that it should shrink or pull.

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