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Rob B
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22nd May 11 at 23:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by gez bay




Epic facepalm fail!

It's like talking to a brick wall
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Originally posted by sc0ott
Major lol, i havent heard so much shite in my life.
How a corsa can constantly pull away from a ctr until it hits vtec is just bollocks.
Plus when racing the ctr will pretty much always be in the vtec region.

IIRC it kicks in at 5k rpm and at 6k rpm the lift controllers kick in on a ctr? Something like that.


Vtec kicks in @ 5800-8200 on a standard ep3 IIRC... once mapped usually lowered around 5k or below and raised to 9k (ish)

I can imagine it being very close with a healthy ep3 vs healthy corsa xe with similar driving abilities... 1200kgs 197 bhp vs 1050kgs 150bhp?
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22nd May 11 at 23:59   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

When I had my xe I didn't gain, but didn't get pulled away from when I raced a ctr. Was going up hill though
big eck
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They are very similar having owned both for some time but I have to admit it once the ctr hits the magic vtec (I hate saying that lol) it comes into it's own. The corsa does feel quicker but in real life the ctr is quicker.
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When i had my XE everyone was to scared to race me incase i talked about it on the internet.
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who the fuck cares!!!!!!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
They are very similar having owned both for some time but I have to admit it once the ctr hits the magic vtec (I hate saying that lol) it comes into it's own. The corsa does feel quicker but in real life the ctr is quicker.


I am a vtec convert Hammering it round past 9k is a great feeling
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who the fuck cares!!!!!!!!



The internet has a right to know Mike
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by mike56gte
who the fuck cares!!!!!!!!



The internet has a right to know Mike


so it seems archie

some folk take it far too seriously tho!
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Originally posted by big eck
They are very similar having owned both for some time but I have to admit it once the ctr hits the magic vtec (I hate saying that lol) it comes into it's own. The corsa does feel quicker but in real life the ctr is quicker.


I am a vtec convert Hammering it round past 9k is a great feeling


I fuckin hated it just so used to having loads of pull from low down and near instant power all the time
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I loved every minute of driving my XE, thats what its all about, not what you can beat.

There will always be something faster.
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by Eck
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Originally posted by big eck
They are very similar having owned both for some time but I have to admit it once the ctr hits the magic vtec (I hate saying that lol) it comes into it's own. The corsa does feel quicker but in real life the ctr is quicker.


I am a vtec convert Hammering it round past 9k is a great feeling


I fuckin hated it just so used to having loads of pull from low down and near instant power all the time


The thing is, my one isn't THAT bad because its an ancient light stripped out thing so it doesn't have much weight to pull
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I think we need to organise an XE vs everything else night and settle this
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quote:
Originally posted by Ash_EP3
quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Major lol, i havent heard so much shite in my life.
How a corsa can constantly pull away from a ctr until it hits vtec is just bollocks.
Plus when racing the ctr will pretty much always be in the vtec region.

IIRC it kicks in at 5k rpm and at 6k rpm the lift controllers kick in on a ctr? Something like that.


Vtec kicks in @ 5800-8200 on a standard ep3 IIRC... once mapped usually lowered around 5k or below and raised to 9k (ish)

I can imagine it being very close with a healthy ep3 vs healthy corsa xe with similar driving abilities... 1200kgs 197 bhp vs 1050kgs 150bhp?


5800 is when you feel the kick which is the lift controllers kicking in but im sure it all begins at 5000. Ill have a search on the net
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THE ANSWER CAN BE FOUND
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quote:
Originally posted by JM_16v
THE ANSWER CAN BE FOUND




We know the CTR is better just trying to identify if it's faster
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you dont get fresh legendary threads like these when you google it though.
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You don't get the new accounts from younger drivers either. Like how the XE went past at 149mph on an F20.
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Need to remember though that with a digi dash fitted,it will do 157mph because the digi dash is so accurate because its digital.

And even though it stops at 157mph,but still keeps revving,that means that its doing a genuine 157mph+.Even on an F20.
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I heard if you get an F28 and take out 6th you have a close ratio F20.
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My 2.0 Redtop done a VTR no problem beat a VTS aswell but that was neck and neck, there cheap and fun though no way do they beat Impreza/Evos or M3's but people get a shock especially if you buy a sleeper, if you want to give the bigger cars a run go for a C20let thats what i want
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Beat a VTS but it was neck and neck?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ash_EP3
quote:
Originally posted by sc0ott
Major lol, i havent heard so much shite in my life.
How a corsa can constantly pull away from a ctr until it hits vtec is just bollocks.
Plus when racing the ctr will pretty much always be in the vtec region.

IIRC it kicks in at 5k rpm and at 6k rpm the lift controllers kick in on a ctr? Something like that.


Vtec kicks in @ 5800-8200 on a standard ep3 IIRC... once mapped usually lowered around 5k or below and raised to 9k (ish)

I can imagine it being very close with a healthy ep3 vs healthy corsa xe with similar driving abilities... 1200kgs 197 bhp vs 1050kgs 150bhp?


my clio is 960kg 185bhp, cant see that nailing a type r though

[Edited on 23-05-2011 by gez bay]
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what about a 197bhp 800kg eg civic with vtec kicking in from 5k up until 10k?

costs £5330 to make one though

n a 2ltr corsa cant cost more than a grand or watever....
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so corsa has more bang for your precious bucks

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