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Jed D
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8th Apr 11 at 18:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

first off, checked the fuse obv
fitted new radiator
gm switch
fresh coolant whilst i was on
wired the fan up to the batt and it works

any help much appreciated
Generation
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8th Apr 11 at 18:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Air lock? Did temperature reach red?
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Air lock? Did temperature reach red?


temp got upto just before red then i switched it off. can normally tell if its an air lock cos the heaters tend not to blow warm but they did

just been and borrowed a multimeter and checked the power.
there's power to the switch but no power from the switch to the fan. think im just gunna run a wire round somewhere

cheers anyhow


EDIT: just for any help to anyone with similar problems. there's two wires going into my switch (on the bottom left of the radiator) one brown with white stripe on it and one just brown. the brown one has no power to the fan


[Edited on 08-04-2011 by JedDy]
Generation
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9th Apr 11 at 12:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Brown is earth?

Some fans don't kick in until over 100
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
Brown is earth?

Some fans don't kick in until over 100


so iv just got a fault earth??

ran it just before the red. still didnt kickin
redtom
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9th Apr 11 at 13:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Maybe you have loads of threads wrapped around it
Jed D
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9th Apr 11 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

rite, im not an experct when it comes to electrics, far from it but...

the switch has two wires going into it
1) brown and white
2) just brown

the brown and white wire has over 12v power but the brown hasn't got any

the fan has two going in (cant remember colours off the top of my head) but one has power and one doesn't

iv ran a wire from one on the switch that doesn't work to one on the fan that doesn't work, ran the car rite upto temp (just before the red) and no joy

then, i kut that wire and earthed it and tried again. no joy


please someone put me out of my misery.

[Edited on 09-04-2011 by JedDy]
Jed D
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danny90
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im having the same trouble done the same as you and its still not working so wat iv done is the connector going to the fan switch on the rad unpluged that run 2 wires from it to a switch in the car and it works fine thats the easy option

but in the haynes manual it says it could be a bad earth or low voltage power to the fan switch or its a fuse wich you have checked but i dont fancy chasing wires and all that 1 more sensor iv got to try befor i give up and thats the 1 where your thermostat is im guna have a go tomorrow and ill let you know how it goes

lee mitchell
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take the plug out the fan switch. start the car, put a peice of wire in the plug so it bridges the 2 wires. if fan works its the fan switch etc
danny90
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i done that and my fan still didnt come on :S bridged connectors and it came on

done the air lock thing it was ok checked thermostat thats ok
but fan isnt still coming on with my new fan switch


[Edited on 09-04-2011 by danny90]
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by danny90
im having the same trouble done the same as you and its still not working so wat iv done is the connector going to the fan switch on the rad unpluged that run 2 wires from it to a switch in the car and it works fine thats the easy option

but in the haynes manual it says it could be a bad earth or low voltage power to the fan switch or its a fuse wich you have checked but i dont fancy chasing wires and all that 1 more sensor iv got to try befor i give up and thats the 1 where your thermostat is im guna have a go tomorrow and ill let you know how it goes




yeah, thats going to by my last option. did you put a fuse in it though??

also, isnt there a sensor on or near the injector rail that'll have something to do with it to.

and cheers, let me know how you get one as i haven't tried the one on the thermostat housing yet
djice56
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9th Apr 11 at 21:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have u changed the ect sensor just next to the thermostat housing and checked the relay
danny90
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guna check tha ect sensor 2moz
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by djice56
have u changed the ect sensor just next to the thermostat housing and checked the relay



no not yet good idea, thanks. let you know


quote:
Originally posted by danny90
guna check tha ect sensor 2moz


let me know if you get it done pal
danny90
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10th Apr 11 at 20:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right m8 here we go. did you change your fan switch sensor on the bottom driver side on the rad if so you know when you took it out did water piss out the hole if not then its bloked down that corner
i found this out after i brought a new thermostat and it was still over heating so my m8 asked me if water came out myn because water surpose to come out and no water came out myn so i took the rad off and had a look and i was shocked as it was blocked and it was like wet sand or something so the water couldnt get to the sensor as it was all cacked up it took me half an hour to dig it all out and blasted water threw the rad for 10mins fitted it all back together coolant in no air locks let car get up to temp 100`c and fan kicked in straigt away and turned off at 95 at this point i had a big smile on my face

i changed :

fan switch
thermostat
tried air lock test
and tested all conections for power
and there was 1 more thing in the haynes and that was (blocked radiator)
as thats the lowest point of the rad any crap in your water system will sit ther and block up
but sand i had no clue where that was from so it works for now just orded me a new rad to be safe

hope this as helped you m8 if you have no blockage the i dont know m8

here is a pic after i cleaned half of it out



Jed D
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ahh, rite, now you've got me puzzled. i really dont think it'll be blocked as its a brand new rad and switch, but my car did have aircon as theres still a switch on the dash but my OLD rad (wich looked original) didnt have that air con switch hole in it . new one doest ether. but seen as its a new radiator it'll not be clagged up.

really apreciate the responce mind , but problem still not solved . iv just orderd and new temp switch (the one that goes on the thermostat) il see if that solves it
the thermostat must be working as the pipe coming out of it heats up when the thermostat opens around the 85_88'c area.

just wondering if there's another temp switch that may effect this??


my mate who knows his novas inside out rekons theres one near or on the injector rail but he isnt sure on the 16v engines

ultimate cheers
danny90
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oh ryt m8 didnt know u had new rad lol yh try that sensor if not it must be a wire fault
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10th Apr 11 at 21:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Easy wiring 101

Battery 12v to Fan Plug wire 1
Fan Plug Wire 2 to Rad Switch wire 1
Rad Switch wire 2 to Earth

IF still dosent work then Fans broken OR Rad Switch Broken

Not sure on colours you may have to swop fan ones over if the fan go's backwards.
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by BeArDy
Easy wiring 101

Battery 12v to Fan Plug wire 1
Fan Plug Wire 2 to Rad Switch wire 1
Rad Switch wire 2 to Earth

IF still dosent work then Fans broken OR Rad Switch Broken

Not sure on colours you may have to swop fan ones over if the fan go's backwards.



tested fan works
rad switch to earth tried

Fan Plug Wire 2 to Rad Switch wire 1- explain a bit more please pal
danny90
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tbh m8 id just put the fan switch 2 a switch in the car turn it on when eva u like so easy 2 do i wud of ended up doin that if i neva found the problem lol
Jed D
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thats plan b, lol, not giving up yet. gunna try this switch when it comes, if not then gunna check wireing and fuses again, if still no joy then blan b
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i had a problem like this when iconverted my aircon model sport to an xe
Jed D
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quote:
Originally posted by davieslim
i had a problem like this when iconverted my aircon model sport to an xe


see my car had air con but the car seems to of had a front end shunt and its been removed, yet it didnt have that extra hole for aircon in the normal rad, unless it was replaced, i dont know

what solved the xe conversion then?
Jed D
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orderd this yesterday http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120705850868&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1660wt_1139

then read the description after buying it (ooops) will it fit as it says it fits the x16xeL??

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