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Robin
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22nd Feb 11 at 21:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My future brother in laws mk4 anni made 245bhp and 400lb/ft today, so your torque figure is well down IMO
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All the diesels were making around the same though, a TDI Cupra made 230ft/lb but had 3bhp more, I really do think it either slightly spins on the rollers or the torque is down because every tuner I speak to finds it hard to believe it's only 320ft/lb with 240bhp... A non-hybrid PD150 made 205bhp with 320ft/lb...
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Oh and sat with a E46 M3 tonight, the guy is my mate and claimed he wasn't in sports mode (dunno how much difference that made) but didn't leave me at all from 40mph -> 130mph, I was actually easing off a little bit as I was being bombed with stones and having smashed my windscreen only a week before, along with two shattered fogs can't really be doing it any more :-\

He had a passenger though in fairness but still quite happy with that

[Edited on 22-02-2011 by xa0s]
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Oi, less of the JTD basing please
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you sure they arnt giving flywheel HP and Wheel torque

thats what they were doing at RedDot till people started to moan
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Oi, less of the JTD basing please


the JTD engines are brilliant
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Were they rolling the cars in 3rd or 4th? 3rd tends to give higher bhp and lower torque figures than 4th.
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I personally think my JTD engine is a heap of shit
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quote:
Originally posted by xa0s
Oh and sat with a E46 M3 tonight, the guy is my mate and claimed he wasn't in sports mode (dunno how much difference that made) but didn't leave me at all from 40mph -> 130mph, I was actually easing off a little bit as I was being bombed with stones and having smashed my windscreen only a week before, along with two shattered fogs can't really be doing it any more :-\

He had a passenger though in fairness but still quite happy with that

[Edited on 22-02-2011 by xa0s]


Spots mode/passenger or not thats still bloody impressive from a 1.9 diesel
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quote:
Originally posted by big eck
quote:
Originally posted by xa0s
Oh and sat with a E46 M3 tonight, the guy is my mate and claimed he wasn't in sports mode (dunno how much difference that made) but didn't leave me at all from 40mph -> 130mph, I was actually easing off a little bit as I was being bombed with stones and having smashed my windscreen only a week before, along with two shattered fogs can't really be doing it any more :-\

He had a passenger though in fairness but still quite happy with that

[Edited on 22-02-2011 by xa0s]


Spots mode/passenger or not thats still bloody impressive from a 1.9 diesel


A bit too impressive.
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Originally posted by Mertin
Do you actually use the whole rev range of the petrol, 7k in every gear?
Diesels have less revs, but more power and effortless overtaking and dont need the tits revved off them to gdt anywhere like a petrol. I can overtake a 60mph car in 5th no bother then slip back into 6th and cruise along


I could do this in 6th with my petrol anni
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im not buying a diesel hatchback keeping with a M3, sorry an ///M3
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisritch
im not buying a diesel hatchback keeping with a M3, sorry an ///M3


I don't think he's selling it.
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Originally posted by A2H GO
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Originally posted by big eck
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Originally posted by xa0s
Oh and sat with a E46 M3 tonight, the guy is my mate and claimed he wasn't in sports mode (dunno how much difference that made) but didn't leave me at all from 40mph -> 130mph, I was actually easing off a little bit as I was being bombed with stones and having smashed my windscreen only a week before, along with two shattered fogs can't really be doing it any more :-\

He had a passenger though in fairness but still quite happy with that

[Edited on 22-02-2011 by xa0s]


Spots mode/passenger or not thats still bloody impressive from a 1.9 diesel


A bit too impressive.


I sense a bit of doubt lol

My mates old ibiza diesel was mapped to 185bhp and a shed load of torque and had no bother keeping up with my old 270bhp LCR. With another 50bhp and even more torque an M3 shouldnt be that much of a stretch.
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Race mine if you want?

Over weight mk4 golf pd130 standard

Awesome figures youve got there, one question did you notice much difference from the dmf and the smf like chatter/vibration?
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a standard pd130 is 130bhp with 228lbs a simple remap can see 190bhp and over 300lbs. awesome engines and they still return very high mpg.
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If im being honest, although it was wet didnt have the low down punch i was expecting, fucking flys around the top end though! but thats a bigger turbo for you...
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quote:
Originally posted by Warren G
If im being honest, although it was wet didnt have the low down punch i was expecting, fucking flys around the top end though! but thats a bigger turbo for you...


Anti lag turbo set up
Thats what ive heard, people buying the 130pd over the 150pd due to the earlier turbo spool.
Im now looking for a new set of tyres for mine, dont realise how easy it munches through tthem in the wet


[Edited on 23-02-2011 by Gareth F]
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I was down at Santa Pod either 09 or last year the day before bimmer fest, and my 2 hybrid friends were taking m3's all day
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I still refuse to believe a 250bhp diesel Skoda (expecially with that torque figure) will keep with an M3.

Maybe up to 4k rpm in second gear, after this the M3 will keep going in each gear, the diesel wont.

[Edited on 23-02-2011 by A2H GO]
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TBF, what model M3 is everyone thinking of ? 2.3, GT, SMG, 4.0 DKG, Hartge ?
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TBF, what model M3 is everyone thinking of ? 2.3, GT, SMG, 4.0 DKG, Hartge ?


I was just thinking of a standard e46 m3, I was under the impression most are around 320bhp?
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07 - All are 414bhp

01 - 06 All are 340 except the CSL which is 360 iirc

95 - 98 All 320 except the 4dr which was 280

Obviously there are then specials etc

[Edited on 23-02-2011 by Neo]
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TBF there's only 15bhp difference when you do the math of bhp/tonne. Still debatable.
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Taken from Parkers

E36

Normal, 286bhp 0-60 5.8
Evo 321bhp, 0-60 5.3

E46

338bhp, 0-60 5.0
CSL 360bhp, 0-60 4.7


Now as one Ibiza has a timed slip from GTi Inters of 0-60 in 5secs...

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