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mantamark
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1st May 10 at 14:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

How do you know you got a spark? What did you do?
will_doyle
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
How do you know you got a spark? What did you do?


Took it out .. turned the engine.. saw the spark

[Edited on 01-05-2010 by will_doyle]
SR91
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What, you saw inside the engine? Think that's your problem mate!
will_doyle
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the spark plugs
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£1700 well spent then
will_doyle
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any ideas?
JaffaTB
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was it working when you parked it, then the next day it wasnt?

if it was me i would check petrol, spark, have a look at belts on engine see if everything was still ok

but you have done most of those anyway so dont know
Eddx14xe
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Join the RAC get homestart, then call them out
mantamark
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You need to do that with all four plugs.
mantamark
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Also, what colour were the plugs? were they wet or dry?
iToMo x
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CALL A GARAGE OUT!!!
will_doyle
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quote:
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Also, what colour were the plugs? were they wet or dry?


silver

dry ish

had abit of oil on them
mantamark
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Silver?

I mean the tip, the bit that goes into the engine, take a pic of each one.
will_doyle
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quote:
Originally posted by mantamark
Silver?

I mean the tip, the bit that goes into the engine, take a pic of each one.


ohh not sure mate

might of been yellow... not sure

lol

take pics tomoro
Ojc
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I don't know why people continue to ask him questions, hes only continuing to answer questions half hearted as it gets him another 10 page thread and some more attention.

Hes not as stupid as he makes out.
JaffaTB
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Why would he make out his week old bought car was broke unless he was a total retard?

Oh wait....
will_doyle
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quote:
Originally posted by JaffaTB
Why would he make out his week old bought car was broke unless he was a total retard?

Oh wait....


go away
Limecat
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Doyle, you are a tit.
will_doyle
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quote:
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Doyle, you are a tit.


ok
Kevxx
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if it ain't your head gasket, and you've drove the car at high temp, i reckon you've worn one or more piston rings, stopping compression.
SamCorsaB
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Scrap it
will_doyle
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OK, well the car now starts thanks to a very knowledgeable AA patrol man and my dads Home Start. Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread and I thought I'd pass on his advise and troubleshooting logic to solve the problem.

- The guy spun the engine and as suspected the engine didn't fire.
- he removed the small black corrugated plastic pipe from the fuel rail that covers a valve similar to a tyre valve
- whilst spinning the engine, he depressed the valve end and fuel shot everywhere, so this proved the pump was working
- he then removed the spark plugs and noticed excess fuel.
- he removed all plugs and heated them using a blow torch, not only to dry them, but provide heat inside the cylinder to burn off any fuel the next time the engine was spun
- he then removed the fuse for the fuel pump. (marked FI on the fuse box cover)
He then spun the engine and there was a distinct fire. The point of removing the fuse was so that as the engine spun, it didn't pump fuel into the cylinder, giving the air intake a chance to get rid of excess fuel.
- he then returned the fuel pump fuse, spun the engine, and everything started fine.

- his comment was, that modern cars nowadays were designed to start first time every time on the first turn of the ignition. If they didn't, then unburnt fuel was then expelled out of the exhaust and this was regarded as pollution. So, to get a car to start first time, loads of fuel is pumped into the cylinder. So, how does the car get flooded? Well if you move a car with a cold engine and you move it a short, then there is not enough heat and time for the fuel to evaporate from the cylinder. Because the cylinders are so well sealed, the petrol will just sit there, for weeks sometimes ans result in a flooded engine. The AA patrol man said the classic case was where someone reverses their car out of a garage on a sunday, onto their drive to wash it. After the wash, they try to start the engine to get it back in the garage and the car wont start. The engine is flooded.

- rather than take the spark plugs out and heat them, the tip is to remove the fuel pump fuse, spin the engine and get rid of the fuel, the car may even be heard to try to start. Then replace the fuel pump fuse, and all shlould be ok.

Hope this helps, and thanks for everyone's advice.



Chris x
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I bet you will break it again within the next...2hours.
Piér
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I dont know who you are will but I actually quite happy for you as everyone was giving you shit throughout all of it and it was just as simple as that! haha, So good on you just look after it because that car is gorgeous.
Nic Barnes
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thats cool doyle.

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