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CoastalCorsa
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18th Jun 06 at 14:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

car ran out of fuel bout 4 month ago and it has been sat down my drive till now...... I have put 15 litres of petrol in it and turned the key but it wont start i could not hear the fuel pump kick in so i checked the relay and it was knackered

i have now put a new relay in, but the car still wont start

its a converted sri its a x16xel

on my other corsa when you turn the ignition on the eml light comes on then once engine is started it goes off but on my sri [ the one that wont start] the eml light does not come on with the ignition - dont know if this is out to do with it

essay finished hope you guys can help Cheers

[Edited on 12-07-2006 by CoastalCorsa]
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CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by manchester-lad
battrey?


When i turn they key the ignition lights come on Very bright but the eml does not illuminate [it used to] when i turn the key the car turns over as it should but wont fire up
Milkman
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18th Jun 06 at 14:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Transponder and chip could be playing about????

When this is not working it stops the fuel pump kicking in. Some one will correct me if am wrong
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Milkman
Transponder and chip could be playing about????

When this is not working it stops the fuel pump kicking in. Some one will correct me if am wrong


think i will go have a play with this? bit concerned about the eml not coming on but i suppose that could be a blown bulb

is there any way around these stupid transponder rings apart from cellataping the chip to the ring
Milkman
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I aint a clue mate tbh, the EML light might just be due to the chip and transponder not connecting
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Milkman
I aint a clue mate tbh, the EML light might just be due to the chip and transponder not connecting


Hopefully....but in the past if the chip aint recognised the eml would flash
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Aint a clue mate, not really good on cars. I just remember being told something like when i once had a prob with my chip not being in key - Silly me
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definitely will not start until eml illuminates have you checked ALL of the fuses?
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
definitely will not start until eml illuminates have you checked ALL of the fuses?


have looked at all fuses they all seem fine think i am gonna make a small curcuit and test em all coz all they need is a hairline crack and they screw everything up its gotta be a fuse
CoastalCorsa
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Still got problems and i made it worse

every fuse is fine i have checked them with a multimeter for continuety, but now when i turn the key all i can hear is the starter motor whining very loud and engine doesnt even turn over

so problem now is eml wont come on when ignition is turned on and engine wont turn over Hope to god i aint burnt out the dispack

Edit - ARE ALL THE FUSES LOCATED IN THE CAR OR ARE THERE MORE ELSEWHERE

[Edited on 18-06-2006 by CoastalCorsa]
ainsley_brader
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It sounds like you have drained thew battery down.

I belive the eml is also controled by a relay!?
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
It sounds like you have drained thew battery down.

I belive the eml is also controled by a relay!?


ooh pls tell me more this sounds interesting as i found a brown relay which was fried
net_freak
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bump start?
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by net_freak
bump start?


Dont see how this will work if the engine management disables the fuel pump
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quote:
Originally posted by CoastalCorsa
quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
It sounds like you have drained thew battery down.

I belive the eml is also controled by a relay!?


ooh pls tell me more this sounds interesting as i found a brown relay which was fried


brown relay sounds about right, sounds as if you aren't getting power to the ecu tbh
CoastalCorsa
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Dont know what to check tbh as it all worked fine a couple of months back and now the ecu has either given up or the electrics are buggered
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quote:
Originally posted by CoastalCorsa
Dont know what to check tbh as it all worked fine a couple of months back and now the ecu has either given up or the electrics are buggered


check the earth in the driver's footwell, check battery connections, check the earth on the fuel rail
CoastalCorsa
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quote:
Originally posted by Rileysport
quote:
Originally posted by CoastalCorsa
Dont know what to check tbh as it all worked fine a couple of months back and now the ecu has either given up or the electrics are buggered


check the earth in the driver's footwell, check battery connections, check the earth on the fuel rail


where abouts are the 2 earths where abouts in the footwell
Rileysport
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you have behind the kick panel, and on the end of the fuel rail on the passenger side iirc
CoastalCorsa
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Cant find any earth straps in the kick panel area not even a loose wire looked at the pins on the ecu plug and there is like a blue colour powder type stuff on the plug
CoastalCorsa
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Any one know what the brown and purple relay are on a x14xe loom in the drivers footwell
ainsley_brader
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quote:
Originally posted by CoastalCorsa
Cant find any earth straps in the kick panel area not even a loose wire looked at the pins on the ecu plug and there is like a blue colour powder type stuff on the plug


Hmm that powder is corrosion which isn't good try and find a water dispersant like wd40 (but not wd40 preferably as ironically its water based) and spray the ecu multi plug pins then connect and disconnect it a few times to brighten up the terminals.

ECU power and the eml are linked for sure! Do you have an fuses/relays under the scuttle panel drivers side near the brake fluid reservoir?
CoastalCorsa
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Not that i can find just a big 30 amp fuse in a box - appears fine

water dispersant - what products do you know off i dont know of any


got some panel wipe but thats flamable dont wanna torch the car

[Edited on 20-06-2006 by CoastalCorsa]
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Well WD40 would do, i tend to use wurth ultra 20-40. Just go into a car accessory shop and ask for a product to remove moisture from an electrical plug.

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