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corsawig
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I think i need a new sump as i have a small leak coming from it. I've been told that there is a steel or alloy sump for my engine (x14xe). I was wondering is there any difference apart from the price?
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I think they might have different length bolts and they have different gaskets but the holes are in the same places i believe
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29th Feb 08 at 14:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All x14/16/c16xe engines have alloy sumps.
The older 8v's had steel sumps
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i've been told mine has a metal sump
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I had a steel sump on my X14XE so it might be steel. Are you buying one from new? the shop should be able to tell you just by looking at it
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ya, but i've been told that the alloy one is cheaper. I was wondering if there was any difference on performance or on how long they last
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
I had a steel sump on my X14XE so it might be steel. Are you buying one from new? the shop should be able to tell you just by looking at it

Someone must have fitted it then....
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Yeah it may well have been fitted by someone else before I got it.

Personally id rather have an alloy one because you get a better (rubber) gasket so its less likely to leak. A friend of mine smashed his sump on a hole in the road the other day and we got one from a scrap yard for a tenner
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didn't think of that lol might have to go down once my car is running again. Would ARP bolts be ok with the alloy sump? i was thinking of strengthening the bottom end
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ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts!
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts!

Unless the car has no suspension/wheels fitted and is resting on the sump/engine itself
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is there anyway to tell by just looking at them, which sumps is steel or alloy?
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You can tell by looking at them but its hard to explain, if you take a few pictures we should be able to tell you.



quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by luke85
ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts!

Unless the car has no suspension/wheels fitted and is resting on the sump/engine itself


Good point, they are also less than fun on a saturday afternoon in winter when its pissing it down and the only way to get a sump is to lay in a muddy puddle under a car propped up with a wobbly jack and a corsa spare wheel!
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quote:
Originally posted by corsawig
is there anyway to tell by just looking at them, which sumps is steel or alloy?

Yeah, they look completely different.
The alloy sump bolts to the gearbox too!
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like this:


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Yep
Thats an alloy sump

The steel ones are like smooth, and dont have that end piece.

 
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