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Vaux Lad	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 17:43
	Yep Thats an alloy sump The steel ones are like smooth, and dont have that end piece.
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 17:38
	like this:
Vaux Lad	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 17:31
	quote: Originally posted by corsawig is there anyway to tell by just looking at them, which sumps is steel or alloy? Yeah, they look completely different. The alloy sump bolts to the gearbox too!
luke85	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 16:17
	You can tell by looking at them but its hard to explain, if you take a few pictures we should be able to tell you. quote: Originally posted by Vaux Lad quote: Originally posted by luke85 ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts! Unless the car has no suspension/wheels fitted and is resting on the sump/engine itself :lol: Good point, they are also less than fun on a saturday afternoon in winter when its pissing it down and the only way to get a sump is to lay in a muddy puddle under a car propped up with a wobbly jack and a corsa spare wheel!
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:53
	is there anyway to tell by just looking at them, which sumps is steel or alloy?
Vaux Lad	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:52
	quote: Originally posted by luke85 ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts! Unless the car has no suspension/wheels fitted and is resting on the sump/engine itself :lol:
luke85	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:48
	ARP rod bolts will be fine with either sump. Scrap yards are often the best, cheapest and quickest way to get parts!
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:40
	didn't think of that lol might have to go down once my car is running again. Would ARP bolts be ok with the alloy sump? i was thinking of strengthening the bottom end
luke85	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:20
	Yeah it may well have been fitted by someone else before I got it. Personally id rather have an alloy one because you get a better (rubber) gasket so its less likely to leak. A friend of mine smashed his sump on a hole in the road the other day and we got one from a scrap yard for a tenner
Vaux Lad	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:03
	quote: Originally posted by luke85 I had a steel sump on my X14XE so it might be steel. Are you buying one from new? the shop should be able to tell you just by looking at it Someone must have fitted it then....
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 15:00
	ya, but i've been told that the alloy one is cheaper. I was wondering if there was any difference on performance or on how long they last
luke85	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 14:49
	I had a steel sump on my X14XE so it might be steel. Are you buying one from new? the shop should be able to tell you just by looking at it
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 14:42
	i've been told mine has a metal sump :boggle:
Vaux Lad	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 14:39
	All x14/16/c16xe engines have alloy sumps. The older 8v's had steel sumps
luke85	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 13:43
	I think they might have different length bolts and they have different gaskets but the holes are in the same places i believe
corsawig	posted on 29th Feb 08 at 13:32
	I think i need a new sump as i have a small leak coming from it. I've been told that there is a steel or alloy sump for my engine (x14xe). I was wondering is there any difference apart from the price?