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Author free(ish) power from your x14xe / x16xe as long as you have a spare 50mm sock filter
Dave A
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also, someone mentioned a loss of low down torque by removing the pipe. look at the graphs, ther is no loss at all.

the thing about mantzels losing low down torque is also a myth, as I have proven on the dyno many times.
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Originally posted by Dave A
also, someone mentioned a loss of low down torque by removing the pipe. look at the graphs, ther is no loss at all.

the thing about mantzels losing low down torque is also a myth, as I have proven on the dyno many times.


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quote:
Originally posted by Mike B
Awaits All Torque's fail pics


Too tired tonight mate
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I've got a mantzel replica on at the moment - currently my air filter (knN) is bolted directly onto the tb as i've not had time to get an intake pipe, do you think it would be worth trying a sock filter on there instead?
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probably wont be much different.

my so called 'performance' filter loses me 8 bhp when fitted. gay or what.
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quote:
Originally posted by Arctic_Monkey
I've got a mantzel replica on at the moment - currently my air filter (knN) is bolted directly onto the tb as i've not had time to get an intake pipe, do you think it would be worth trying a sock filter on there instead?


wont gain anything from that mate.

the reason a sock filter has been used in dave method is that it is the smallest and easiest filter to use on the back of the engine bay where the throttle body is originally mounted is a sock filter
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What's the retail on one of those sock filters
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Ah, i see
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quote:
Originally posted by jake
What's the retail on one of those sock filters


about twelv'ty pence i think

check out demon tweeks motorsport for a top price, but i think rally design may do them as well, and Dave obviously does them.
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tried both, nothing on demon tweeks and rally design charge 8.50 flat-rate delivery. Jokers
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the air flow sensor measures all the time robin and if you remove it or whatever the car will overfuel, causing damage to certain components over longer periods of time, the cat being one
it may also throw the eml, and in some cases cause the car to go into limp mode

[Edited on 14-09-2007 by Steve]
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It's not an air flow sensor steve, it's an inlet air temperature sensor.

It tells the engine when it's cold and it needs more fuel to start.

Like I say, I drove mine with it out of the inlet pipe for ages before doing my 1.6 conversion, it was fine, no EML, no poor running, no overfuelling, nothing, as it's not an AFM.
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And Corsas don't have limp mode, they're too basic
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so is ther eno afm then?
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Not on the X14 or X16, no.
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quote:
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so is ther eno afm then?

only the c16xe had the airflow meter
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i see
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it's like spot the difference



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Jesus, all the emissions systems on the X16 take up quite a bit of room
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is this pipe easy to remove?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
it's like spot the difference





loads of differences there!
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with a hacksaw and swearing yes
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quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
it's like spot the difference


Steering wheel.
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Take it they are LHD, with the battery being in the nova position?
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham

loads of differences there!

only said that for steve, to show the afm on one and temp sensor on t'other

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