vaux-tech
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Originally posted by Steve
it could have 800bhp would only last for 1 second
i'd give it 2 seconds, 1 for the exhaust manifold to blow to bits with the turbo, and the other for the block to internally combust!! 
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Warren G
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power is made in the cylinder head - not the bottom end, forget about that
as said before, due to high compression a only low blow turbo is needed say 6psi, with is equal to a low compression engine running 15psi with a high blow turbo
this set up is running one of there inlet manifolds, which add 23bhp (surpost)
so say with a air filter and inlet your looking at 100bhp (75bhp standard)
so 130-140bhp isn't impossible with new management, if you looked at the graph the cars revving to almost 7krpm
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by vaux-tech
isnt the point that it wouldnt make 160bhp without these parts??? i know the magazine ads always say 'no internal modifications' but come on, can u really believe it?
internal mods for what exatly? it is, and this is the important bit that people are missing, forced induction. the std ecu with this generic map will be fine. i cant see it causing any problems
as for timing chain???? wtf? i ran double the power of an let, using a timing belt that is from a 150bhp engine. i havent upgraded
more strain on the chain will come from rpm. where is the masses of extra rpm in this 1.2 turbo? so the strain is no more than std? yes or no?
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vaux-tech
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if u asked me what u thought would be safer, a normal timing belt, say off a 16xe or one of those timing chains off the 1.0 and 1.2's, i'd take the belt every time!!
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Steve
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ican quite easily believe 150bhp is possible from this, but not 150 reliable like they claim without uprating internals
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Robin
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yes, belt is clearly better than chain, that's why bike engines and f1 engines are chain driven.
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vaux-tech
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not saying all chains are crap, they should be more reliable, most likely are! BUT ALL IM SAYING IS THE CHAINS THEY USE ON THE 1.0 AND 1.2'S ARE USELESS!! THE LINKS COME OFF ON THE CHAIN AND MAKE ALL THE MESS!!
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by vaux-tech
not saying all chains are crap, they should be more reliable, most likely are! BUT ALL IM SAYING IS THE CHAINS THEY USE ON THE 1.0 AND 1.2'S ARE USELESS!! THE LINKS COME OFF ON THE CHAIN AND MAKE ALL THE MESS!!
timing belt snaps and what happens then?
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Robin
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so are we still talking about the 'bullshit' power figures, or now the 'crap' reliability?
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Warren G
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im with muppetsport on this one
we arn't talking about weather the engine will take the strain or not
personaly i dont belive the 158bhp, but it i think with the right mods 140bhp is achievable
with low boost and an intercooler, uprated injectors and a good map to retard the igntion, it should run fine
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Steve
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Originally posted by Robin
so are we still talking about the 'bullshit' power figures, or now the 'crap' reliability?
bit of both
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kiddy-sean
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wudnt b reailable
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vaux-tech
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this is gonna go on and on 2nyt int it...
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Nic Barnes
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this is gonna go on and on 2nyt int it...
yep, as people are blinded by the fact they dont know what they are talking about and decide to abuse some of us that actually understand engines and how they work.
somehow people are confusing themselves
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Robin
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It'll go on until someone actually proves Muppetsport, Me, Warren and whoever else wrong.
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Rhino
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has anyone else noticed the speed it doing?
158bhp at 6k or something @ 135mph
Are the RRin the car in 5th gear?
do most not use 4th gear?
just wondering.. 
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Robin
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they do it in whatever gear is 1:1, or as close as they can get.
[Edited on 29-12-2006 by Robin]
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mwg
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someone feel free to turbo my X12XE if they want? Its not a twinport but nevermind
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vaux-tech
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quote:
Originally posted by muppetsport
quote:
Originally posted by vaux-tech
this is gonna go on and on 2nyt int it...
yep, as people are blinded by the fact they dont know what they are talking about and decide to abuse some of us that actually understand engines and how they work.
somehow people are confusing themselves
well doing the job i do, muppet, im pretty sure i know a thing or 2 about vauxhall engines and how they work thank u very much, im not absuing anybody, i just want this to be proven so we can all marvel in its glory 
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Dave A
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Originally posted by Rhino
has anyone else noticed the speed it doing?
158bhp at 6k or something @ 135mph
Are the RRin the car in 5th gear?
do most not use 4th gear?
just wondering..
the higher the speed on the rollers the less resistance = higher the bhp figure. a power run should never be done in 5th for that reason. 3rd or 4th is reccomended, a more accurate figure is given by using 3rd.
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Robin
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but do you know how forced induction affects that particular engine?
no.
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Dave A
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but there is a point at which bullshit overtakes reality.
120-130bhp: possibly
145+ bhp: no
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vaux-tech
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Robin
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prove them wrong then.
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vaux-tech
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i'd rather not spunk over £3000 on summat like this, unique yes, but pointless. end of the day its a 1.2 corsa. i'd like to see regal or dave A prove what it runs then we could all stop bickering about it.
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