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Decky
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   20th Dec 06 at 09:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right, basically, i've a nova sport engine just lying in the garage doing nothing.
I've been meaning to finish my nova "project" but i cant really afford the respray at the minute and Im dying to get that engine running again because its just been rebuilt and want to get something faster than my crappy astra si on the road

So, im in two minds to sell the nova and astra, buy a corsa and throw the engine in.
Sounds easy, doesnt it....
But, i've never really noticed too many small block 8v Corsa's with 40's on. Is there a reason for this? Too much hassle etc?

Also, I have a Facet silvertop fuel pump and a filterking regulator, so fueling shouldnt be too much of a problem.
I know the mounts etc are all the same, but will there be a problem with electrics, cooling, clearance etc etc.


Any help is much appreciated.
Cheers,
Decky
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20th Dec 06 at 12:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

think the main reason is that the corsa is haevier than th nova and a small block is just not powerful enuf for most peiples liking.
im puttin a 16 8v into my corsa decky.
would u consider changin the engine yourself?
the mounts are the same, etc the egnine will fit no bother
depending on what engine as in the corsa before then itll be fine, just buy a 1.2 8v and then all is the same etc


but personally id keep the sport engine buy the nova shell or keep ur own and do a nova sport replica!

[Edited on 20-12-2006 by casper_ac]

[Edited on 20-12-2006 by casper_ac]
bigrabbelfast
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20th Dec 06 at 12:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

most people stick a redtop in instead of tuning the smaller engines as it cost less to get a bigger benifit
bieransri
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20th Dec 06 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nova sport engine should be in a nova sport, especially if it has the sport 40's on and even more so if you have the irmy airbox!
Vaux Lad
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20th Dec 06 at 14:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Plus its not going to be that quick tbh in a corsa, only about 85bhp...

Plus what will the insurance be like when you inform them you've got a t40'd engine etc.

It would go straight in tho and if you really wanted do it.
STEvieXE
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20th Dec 06 at 20:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

only 8v to put in a corsa is a 2.0 8v, even at that it makes more sense to xe it..

engine conversion should be straightforward if u insist in doing it..

@ casper - why are u putting a 1.6 8v into ur corsa?? why not an 1.6 16v?? easier sourced engine imo and quicker with more potential
shane2corsa
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20th Dec 06 at 23:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

good idea IMO plenty of 8v low-mid range torque, should be decent enough providing its set up nicely.
casper_ac
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21st Dec 06 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u find me a 16 16v without the wiring complications of immob etc and il bite ur hand off
oh and less than 200 quid as well please!
STEvieXE
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21st Dec 06 at 22:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

get wot ur saying with the key chips etc in the astras but there must be an easy way around it..

as for the engine under 200?? u wouldnt like to paying any more for a 1.6 16v unless it was very very fresh and gd nick etc. ur gte engine?? 50 notes??
Robin
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21st Dec 06 at 22:15   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

C16XE doesnt have those immobiliser issues.
Teknologikal
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I stuck a C16SE into my Corsa and well pleased with the results....but that said I've never driven a Corsa with an XE in it

The step up from a 1.1 Fezzie to C16SE'd Corsa has been enough for now methinks....maybe in another year I'll drop a 2.0l in her or source another shell and work on that instead...all depending.

I paid a oner for the engine (from an Astra Expression) and it had just been rebuilt.....thought I was quite lucky tbh.
craig_s
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22nd Dec 06 at 17:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

1.6 8 valve is better than a 1.6 16 valve any way.if your gunna put a 16 valve engine in use a redtop.
STEvieXE
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22nd Dec 06 at 18:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

why is that?
Teknologikal
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Less can go wrong with it?
STEvieXE
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23rd Dec 06 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

too old imo and nothing going for it to make it worth it..
Robin
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Too old? most of them are only as old as a 20xe.

IMO, it's a good idea with the 1.6, 1.3 is a bit wheezy, but the 1.6 is a good engine.
craig_s
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24th Dec 06 at 10:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeh less to go wrong cheaper to fix cheaper to mod and you can decent power out of them.
STEvieXE
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
Too old? most of them are only as old as a 20xe.

IMO, it's a good idea with the 1.6, 1.3 is a bit wheezy, but the 1.6 is a good engine.


well the nova gsi engine finished in 1993?? altho maybe same engine carried on in other models??

i know wot u are saying but the xe is a highly regarded engine and has alot of potential etc with 150bhp to start with.

the nova engine is fine but imo its better kept in a nova and not put in a corsa.

buy the engine and rebuild it. just dont think its worth the hassle
Robin
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the E/C16SE has 100bhp, and better torque than a C/X16XE, you can buy one for about 30, rebuild it, and have a fully rebuilt engine for about 150, which will still perform as well as a shabby, but expensive C/X16XE.

I know of lots of 16SEs with over 150bhp, Carbed, Turbod and TBd, so it's definitely worth a shot IMO.
Vaux Lad
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140-150bhp is possible from a e/c16se using the standard throttle body and inlet manifold...
STEvieXE
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says in my total vauxhall e/c16se has less torque than the 16v altho i do get ur point...
Robin
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yeah, I didn't mean more, I meant better, the delivery is better.
STEvieXE
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ok so come on, whos gonna do a quick one then??
Teknologikal
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24th Dec 06 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This would be a lovely upgrade

Click me

I'd so do it if I had a spare grand.
STEvieXE
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ultimate velocity, wouldnt go near them...
heard nothing but bad reports

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