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Anton2K3
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Seeing as i have powersteering, and air-con on my car, it seems like a lot of hassle to get a 2L lump in it. What are the tuning prospects for my engine, without going down the turbo route, way too expensive...what sorta BHP i b lookin at with:
Courtenay head
Lexmaul manifold
Velow inlet manifold
superchip?

any other descent mods with good power gains?
Cheers,
Anthony
Sooty
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more hastle to do that
Anton2K3
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I have been told you cannot fit air-con in with a 2L lump, so am better off modifying the engine i got...whats the best mods to get it up to a good BHP?
Cole
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why would ya want air con anyway drains ya power from ya engine
Mattb
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remove the air con.....
and get a coversion........
i was gonna tune my c16xe, but after driving ap racings turbo'd corsa i think i may drop in a let

[Edited on 03-12-2003 by Mattb]
vibrio
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you could get 140hp with inlet and exhaust manifold, exhaust system, decat, head work, cam unichip
Anton2K3
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Thats sorta figure i'm lookin for...can ya give me any details? lookin at doin it in stages. Its got de-cat already.
What ya mean bu head work?
Cheers,
Anthony
Mattb
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oooooo i may have a gas flowed head and set of cams for sale soon, but cant remember wether x16xe heads can go onto x14xe's
Sooty
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who cares about aircon :lol

WINDOWS !
Anton2K3
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think they do go on 1.4, cos all courtenay heads say all 4 cylinder 16v heads r same.
y u sellin? what cams?
Anton2K3
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if i can get same outta my current engine as x20xe, i'll stick wiv mine...love air-con in summer, well worth havin!
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Anton2K3
Thats sorta figure i'm lookin for...can ya give me any details? lookin at doin it in stages. Its got de-cat already.
What ya mean bu head work?
Cheers,
Anthony


Speak to Matt (uses a name along the lines of M4tt_C or something similar). He's running about 135bhp from his 1.4
Wolfy
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
who cares about aircon :lol

WINDOWS !


dont think bill gates intended on using windows to replace air con in corsas somehow!
BabyBlade
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stuff tuning the 1.4!!!! no point at all
Anton2K3
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Y not...yer can get 144BHP with:
Velos torque tube:=+25%
Lexmaul manifold:=+6%
Sports cams:=+8bhp
sports head:=+10%
superchip:=+10%
lightweight flywheel:???
CRB 553
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+10% from a superchip, not sure about that!

U can get alot of power out of these engines the reason people say not to is just the expensive when its more cost effective to stick a larger lump in, but if u got the cash theres no reason why u cant mod it...
BabyBlade
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still wouldnt have as much torque as the 2.0, seriously if ur guna do anything tune the 1.6 at least imo
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6% from manifold... would u get that on a standard engine?
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1.4 16v engines are good as far as 1.4 16v's go, but the 1.6 16v will always be better. That extra bit of torque makes a lot of difference.

I do know of a 1.4 16v Nova on Mig thats running throttle bodies and around 170+bhp.

I wouldn't go for LExmaul. Improves mid range power, but not really that much peak.

Mantzel means u have to rev the engine (16v's liked being revved anyway) but i still think it gives the best gains.

MAtt_C engine has pocketted pistons, cams, mantzel box, exhaust manifold etc and as said hes in the mid 130's, but he's sold that engine now to another guy on here.

PErsonnally, budget allowing, i'd go for (just performance parts)

Throttle bodies (or if youn can't afford that route yet (bout 1600-2k))

Mantzel box
mild fast road cams (256/265 i think were the options)
Lexmaul exhaust manifold
Inlet and exhaust ports flowed to match
de-cat, + 2 1/4" system
Standard airbox + panel filter
Head work (funds allowing)
Custom mapped engine managment

[Edited on 04-12-2003 by Daimo B]
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quote:
Originally posted by Anton2K3
Thats sorta figure i'm lookin for...can ya give me any details? lookin at doin it in stages. Its got de-cat already.
What ya mean bu head work?
Cheers,
Anthony


every thing is basically bolt on. the unichip comes last.

head work. gasflowing - grinding of the head and ports to make the air flow better

porting - opening up the ports to increase airflow through them.


best inlet I have seen is the dbalis one. much gains are better than the mantzel etc
Anton2K3
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thanks for the help guys...think i'm gonna tune it up, don't want to change the engine.
Anthony
Marc
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no replacement for displacement
jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by Anton2K3
Thats sorta figure i'm lookin for...can ya give me any details? lookin at doin it in stages. Its got de-cat already.
What ya mean bu head work?
Cheers,
Anthony


Speak to Matt (uses a name along the lines of M4tt_C or something similar). He's running about 135bhp from his 1.4


i now have that engine , runs 136 BHP with

Manztle power box
flowed inlet manifold
flowed head
custom manifold
264 degree cams
pocketed pistons
omex ecu

jr
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which cost a small fortune i belive
Marc
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did u just buy the engine then?

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