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jamo1986
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23rd Sep 06 at 21:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Has anyone had one of these inlets fitted? how do they compare to a mantzel or dbilas?im thinking of gettin 1 for my x14xe.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/corsa-tigra-VAUXHALL-performance-inlet-manifold-20bhp_W0QQitemZ260032557177QQihZ016QQcategoryZ10404QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Also what other tuning do u recommend for a x14xe?cheers
ckallis500
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better than some of the copy's that have been ,ade, but i would still rather hold on and get a mantzel or even better a velos torque tube (rare) other than the manifold you will want a air filter similar to a viper, ideally a 4branch manifold and system, con-rod bolts and a re-map
jamo1986
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any ideas where to get either of them?
csweatherston
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you'll be very very lucky to get a torque tube......but theres a few second hand mantzels floating around on this site
Sly_SRi
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I thought the ones on ebay used to be like £100?? Anyway, It'll do the same job as a mantzel. If you've ever looked at a proper inlet manifold like a dbilas, its just a hollow box (gas flowed i know) but there won't be a huge different i doubt.


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jamo1986
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so there basically the same except dbilas is gas flowed and £210 more?
Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by jamo1986
so there basically the same except dbilas is gas flowed and £210 more?


not at all. The dbilas and mantzel boxes are designed and manufactured properly, not just 6 bits of thin metal welded together. I agree they will have the same kind of effect but the box design wont be as effiecient at flowing the air as a manifold that was designed properly.

I made a few inlets and they were all flow bench tested. The one I made actually flowed better than the mantzel box, about 20% more efficient in fact! heres a pic of it:



only made a couple as I lost interest and the manufacturing costs were huge. it was much better than the mantzel box but wasnt as good as a dbilas.

the dbilas ones are the best in my opinion, better quality and design than all of the others.
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
theres a few second hand mantzels floating around on this site


These are still available new.

I got mine in January. It was £520 delivered from Germany. Out of principle, i wouldn't pay over the odds for the one you listed.

As Dave says, the mantzel and Dbilas items are made for the job, not just welded metal.
Dave A
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I could knock up those welded metal ones for less than £60, fully powdercoated and ones that would actually fit.
jamo1986
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cheers guys, think ill be ordering a dbilas in the next few weeks. how hard are they to fit, is it a case of taking the standard one off and bolting this one straight on? also, who u do u recommend for a re map, i live in west wales so ideally i dont really wanna be traceling accross the other side of the country, and how much does it roughly cost?
STEvieXE
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24th Sep 06 at 15:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ne news on these for the xe??
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
ne news on these for the xe??


They aren't made for the 20xe.
ckallis500
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the mantzel one i dont think is designed very well at all, if you were to take the throttle body off of a mantzel inlet you will see at th ebottom there is a huge ridge the air has to travel up and over then back down into each cylinder... the one i had made up was a bit larger and di not have this ridge and each cylinder had its own trumpet inside of the plnum chamber...
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to answer the question about fitting these inlets do a search- only attempt it if you are fairly competant with a spanner- have atleast a day to spare to do it. it is not just a case of un bolting and re bolting this one on-
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by willhouse
to answer the question about fitting these inlets do a search- only attempt it if you are fairly competant with a spanner- have atleast a day to spare to do it. it is not just a case of un bolting and re bolting this one on-


As will found out
willhouse
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25th Sep 06 at 10:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

too right dean !!!!!
jamo1986
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well i changed the head gasket on it a couple of months ago.
csweatherston
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allow a day??...... half a day tops......but ideally no more than a couple hours..haha
jamo1986
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not for me,it'd prob take me the full day!
vaux-tech
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25th Sep 06 at 20:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ther a twat!
willhouse
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26th Sep 06 at 07:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have you fitted yours yet weatherston??
csweatherston
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erm..well....not quite......ill be fitting it to my engine which isnt in the car yet lol

its still on a engine stand
willhouse
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28th Sep 06 at 08:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well if your fitting it on the bench it will be an absolute piece of proverbial

if you are fitting it in the car like nearly everyone else has then report back on how long it takes you!!!!
Rick Draper
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28th Sep 06 at 21:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Dave could you get another one of those inlets made? If so can you drop me a PM.
Dave A
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yes, I will be making some more soon. I will let you all know when I get round to it. Busy setting up the new business at the moment

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