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Munchie
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19th Jun 06 at 22:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right, i require a wireless CCTV camera on the front of our house that works at night and can also be activated on motion then recorded to a tape etc?

can anybody get me a price etc of 1?seen some on ebay but they look a bit shit

how does the wirless work as well?can it only be viewed on say 1 or 2 tvs with a reciver built in?help needed urgently!
supacook2k
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http://www.flyonthewall.uk.com/
John
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The wireless ones will only work on the tv you have the reciever plugged into.
I have 3 cameras, go to a computer in the loft and 3 rf modulators to distribute round the house.
Munchie
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u got motion 1s mate?just dont like the idea of recording to a tape 24/7...wuld rather it record when something happens! dunno how to do that tho...
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Someone been stealing the milk again
John
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I've got it all on the server.
Motion detection is done by the computer and records to hard drive.
Cost significantly more to set up than you would want to be spending on a simple wireless camera though.
Munchie
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http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/106012/rb/19932271685

doesnt look to bad...

culd always put it on record if ya go out or suttin...
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I've got it all on the server.
Motion detection is done by the computer and records to hard drive.
Cost significantly more to set up than you would want to be spending on a simple wireless camera though.


What software hardware do you use as i develop/build ip system,

just curious on your views
John
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I should have went IP at the time but unfortunately didn't.
I've got a dvr card of ebay and the rubbish software that comes with it.
16 channel card cost me 100 quid off ebay though and equivalent from cctv shops were like 4/5/6 hundred quid.

It does the job though.
2 decent colour cameras that are IR and black and white at night. and another black and white cheapo that my dad bought when I wasn't looking.
The rents are happy with it anyway so it fits specification.

I would go with IP cams if I done it again though I think.
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yeah i build 16 channel dvr boxes with hard discs for around 500 depending on spec.

IP has its advantages, just need a netural person view really, bar people i sell them to as the best thing since slice bread.
John
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I dont' like the compression of the card.
Its crap tbh for the amount of space it takes up on the harddrive.
I coudln't get any other software to work with it though.
You woudln't happen to have any would you?
The cameras are much better quality than the stuff recorded.
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just a word of advice if you do catch someone doing sumthing on your home installed CCTV it cannot be used as evidence

[Edited on 20-06-2006 by Steve]
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quote:
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just a word of advice if you do catch someone doing sumthing on your home installed CCTV it cannot be used as evidence

[Edited on 20-06-2006 by Steve]


Not 100% true but on old fasion tape recorded ones yes.

[Edited on 20-06-2006 by Jodi_the_g]
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quote:
Originally posted by John
I dont' like the compression of the card.
Its crap tbh for the amount of space it takes up on the harddrive.
I coudln't get any other software to work with it though.
You woudln't happen to have any would you?
The cameras are much better quality than the stuff recorded.



Not really i build the software to sit on top of the server so not sure if it would help with compression.

Thouh axis do a few peices of software that might do the trick, pretty sure they do free trails might be worth testing a few.
John
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Do axis do stuff for non networked cameras?
I had a quick look on the site and only seen the network stuff.
The problem with all the software I've tried in the past is that it won't work with the drivers for the dvr card.
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what make in the dvr?

axis pretty much made their bones in networked cameras so might not do anything else anymore.
John
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I've just had a quick search from the name of the drivers and they say Progress DVR Video driver.
A quick look on google brings up kodicom which rings a bell from when I looked before but that must have been a year ago at least now.
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shall have a look tomorrow when i get into work though the caterloges and see if i can find something.
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
just a word of advice if you do catch someone doing sumthing on your home installed CCTV it cannot be used as evidence



why's that
Jodi_the_g
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Becuase the law for CCTV was created many years ago when the picture quilaty that was taken, was very poor. (and in most cases it still is most people forget to change tapes incorrect timestamps etc)

Therefore you are only allow to use images taken from a moving image as supporting evidnece, i.e you need witness or the bloke to say yep that me.


[Edited on 20-06-2006 by Jodi_the_g]
John
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You've got me interested again.
I took a picture so I can have a look without taking it out the computer all the time

here

Looks like a kodicom 4400.
John
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Found out quite a but now.
Seems the BT878a chip is quite common.
All I need to find now is something that will either work with the drivers my card has, install a wdm driver ontop of them and record video in much higher quality.

Anything you can find would be greatly appreciated jodi.

 
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