burt16v
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Hello all
just new to the site and am currently lookin for a 1.6 sport. at the moment i have a Mk6 RS2000 but too hard on insurance and fuel.
Just wanted to ask a few questions on tuning the car. ive been on to mantzel, velos and dbilas websites looking at they're intake manifolds, just wanted to know who is best and do they actually give increases of +20bhp just from a new manifold? Ive seen a few cars on here with both velos and mantzel products and was lookin for ur opinions. was thinkin of going for velos.
Also just how quick is the corsa with say full exhaust, manifold, decat,chip and performance inlet manifold, eg quicker than a 106gti??
any comments would be great cheers lads and lasses
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Fraser Young
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dbilas by far the best but most expensive accordingly...
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Meat-Pie-SRI
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This is true..........
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burt16v
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have any of you fitted this? or similar
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broster
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iv fitted 2 of the lexmaul ones, dont work the same way tho and is a direct swop, the lexmaul item works by ramming the air down where as the other work by removing the bends in the inlet system and moving the throttle body, this makes it a bigger job, like a good day long job if i remember correctly!
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ffls
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I've used Mantzel with good results
Gave +25bhp with chip in a 1.4 16V
Had to increase fuel pressure
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ffls
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If you want to beat a 106GTI just fit SBD hardware, you can have 200 bhp from a 1.6.
That and some car lighten should be enough for all 106GTI
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Ryan L
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quote:
Originally posted by ffls
If you want to beat a 106GTI just fit SBD hardware, you can have 200 bhp from a 1.6.
That and some car lighten should be enough for all 106GTI
surely not if the 106Gti has had the same kinda money spent on it
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ffls
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Only Peugeot sport can do this leve of tuning in 106GTI and it would cost 3 times more
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miles
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Once you've changed the inlet manifold I cant see any real differences between the 2 engines.
The XE engines are excellent 
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Fad
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mantzel box as its TUV aproved
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Fraser Young
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quote:
Originally posted by fadscorsa
mantzel box as its TUV aproved
as is Dbilas
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Greasemonkey
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I raced a 106 GTI before my smash and beat him, i got Mantzel power box, fully-rebuilt C16XE engine lightened and balanced everything, re-bore- oversized
pistons, stage 2 ported and polished head, cat back system, viper pipercross induction kit, magnecore leads spritfire plugs(not that they make a difference), and still have a lexmaul stainless manifold, to go on and a chip to get with a 7750 rev limit
By By GTI
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Ali Mc
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How much is the Mantzel?
Cud it be fitted by a couple of apprentice mechanics?
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Greasemonkey
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i paid £585 for a C16XE engine, its more expensive than the X16XE cos you have to replace the lower manifold too
I fitted mine myself took me about 14 hours but i was farting about cleaning bits and pieces as i went along, you will do it easy it comes with ok instructions
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burt16v
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Cheers mates for the replies good help.
Grease monkey and Broster what power u's puttin out and broster what mods mate?
Also has any1 tried velos motorsport they are half the price of mantzel and claim the same bhp increase. I see wolf in welsh clothing has one? what do u think mate?
Sorry to go on about this but just wanted to be sure its gonna b good b4 i spend the dough on one.
Cheers
Burt16v
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Greasemonkey
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Velos one is Good, think the power gains are only 2BHP less than mantzel, the mantzel is expensive cos its cast alloy and looks nice but the velos does the same job but looks a bit dodgey,
I would say my cars around 140BHP never rolling roaded it, i have seen similar lesser specs get 160+BHP, so i dont know, when the manifold is on and chip fitted i will let ya all know maybe 150BHP
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Greasemonkey
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Oh just to let ya know the engine in my corsa is a C16XE, the engine in a sport will be a X16XE, the C16XE's tend to respond better tuning wise up to a point, then they will be matched, thats why courtney qoute an increase of 20BHP for the X16XE with mantzel and 22BHP for the C16XE with mantzel
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burt16v
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Mate that sounds good 140bhp must be pretty sharp in a corsa!!! what can u sit with/beat
i was hoping to get around 140bhp out of a full exhaust system,decat,manifold, chip, ind kit and inlet manifold what ye reckon.
I think the sports have an egr dont they i take it thats why they dont respond as well yeah
Burt16v
[Edited on 22-01-2004 by burt16v]
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broster
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my engine mods are this:-
lexmaul inlet, superchip, standard limit, viper inductonkit and a scropion grp a exhaust, that spec gave me 109bhp and 100ft/lb torque, also my engine is a 1.4 16, not a 1.6, engine spec has changed now, to a bfo cat back exhaust, smaller bore, de-cat pipe, supersprint 4-2-1 manifold, and soon a 1.6 engine, hope to see 125 bhp then all being well
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burt16v
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how far is safe t put the limiter out when chipping, i was thinkin no more than 7000 wouldnt wana have it revvin like a vtec! or can the engine deal with that no sweat?
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ffls
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7200-7300 with standard pistons and rod bolts
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Greasemonkey
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i am gonna rev to 7750 ish i got ARP rod bolt fitted so should be safe doing so, i can keep up with a few things i dont make a habit of racing cars i must admit, i got hassled by a convertable Beemer for 4 days running he would drive right up my arse then flash his lights and over take me, i had enough one day he over took and as he went round the bend i though fuck it, caught up with him quickly and took him, he has never done it since LOL
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broster
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i wouldnt wanna go that far with standard rod bolts, how long will it last reving that high on standard rod bolts!
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ffls
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7200 rpm 7300rpm is safe with standard bolts. I rev the car constantly!
But I only use special racing oil
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