LeeM 
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my current 4 is a year old and never had screen protectors on it, theres not a visible scratch on it.
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Balling 
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^ Same, except mine is 26 months old. Backside has a single harsh scratch, and that's it.
 
 
    
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sc0ott 
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Seen a good review on youtube about spigen screen protectors and they gave a positive comment about the screens quality.  
 
Ive just got rid of my 4, and the back had a few light scratches and the sides had small marks because of apples bumper. Prefer to just have an invisible back and front protector than a case.  
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Bart 
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Apple has just been awarded a patent for the virtual page flip / turn; 
 
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/16/tech/innovation/apple-page-turn-patent/ 
 
  
 
How on earth this got passed ill never know
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John 
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  surely there is massive prior art for this 
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Steve 
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Deffo paying off the patent registrars funny how in other countries most of this shit is thrown straight out 
 
[Edited on 19-11-2012 by Steve]
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Russ 
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tbf, apple got stung by a patent which is what started it all, can hardly blame them from not wanting it to happen again 
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mwg 
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You could put money on who would be the first 2 people to post after Bart's post  
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Steve 
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step to me
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Hammer 
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Still waiting on mine   
 
Used my wee brothers though and it is a better phone than the 4S. Felt like a jake going back to my poxy old iPhone after using it.
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A2H GO 
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http://gizmodo.com/5964965/new-apple-patent-outlines-the-wireless-charging-future-were-all-dreaming-of?utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
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John 
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  something never seen on a phone before.
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LeeM 
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useful wireless charging.
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Rob_Quads 
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quote: Originally posted by John 
  something never seen on a phone before. 
   
 
It isn't is it? What phone out there at the moment does this sort of wireless charging? i.e. does not need to be sitting on a charging pad? 
 
Its exactly why Apple haven't just jumped on the first wireless bandwagon. 
 
[Edited on 03-12-2012 by Rob_Quads]
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John 
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Of course wirless charging will get further and further away from a charging pad, until it's part of the fabric of buildings, as I've said, possibly in this thread. 
 
Can I patent the fact that stuff gets better in the future? 
 
What a lot of tosh. They've not jumped on the wireless bandwagon for reasons other than it has to be sat on a pad, sat on a pad is still better than plugging a cable in. 
 
[Edited on 03-12-2012 by John]
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Nismo 
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As the comments on that page goes, its ridiculous that any companies can get a patent for something that isnt actually built and working to an extent. 
 
I might file a patent for a time machine, draw up some fancy picture, then if anyone ever tries to make and sell one im gonna sue.
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Rob_Quads 
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quote: Originally posted by Nismo 
As the comments on that page goes, its ridiculous that any companies can get a patent for something that isnt actually built and working to an extent. 
 
I might file a patent for a time machine, draw up some fancy picture, then if anyone ever tries to make and sell one im gonna sue. 
   
 
How do you know its not built and working to an extent? Having read the patent (which i doubt many have) I can see this very much being made and existing at the moment but the transmitters / receivers are probably not been consumerised yet and thus they are not going to be putting out any pictures etc of it as that's not how they work.  
 
 
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John 
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Of course they exist at the moment, you can power a TV wirelessly in a lab. 
 
You better be careful not to trip over when wearing those massive Apple blinkers.
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Rob_Quads 
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quote: Originally posted by John 
Of course they exist at the moment, you can power a TV wirelessly in a lab. 
   
 
Have you actually read what the parent is or have you just gone off the blog article/comments here? The patent is not just about wireless power its about all the protocols etc behind it, controlling what device charges when etc. This is all very patentable stuff. 
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John 
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I've not read the article and had a brief read of the patent.
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Robbo 
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quote: Originally posted by Nismo 
As the comments on that page goes, its ridiculous that any companies can get a patent for something that isnt actually built and working to an extent. 
 
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   have to agree, allowing simply ideas to be patented risks stifliing creativity not to mention the competition implications. issue a holding patent, build a test version, prove it is marketable and beneficial to society within a givne timeframe then issue the patent proper
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SXI - Matt 
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Ok my 4 is broke and I'm going to get a new contract are the 5 that much better then the 4S? Worth the extra for the handset?
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Rob_Quads 
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quote: Originally posted by Robbo 
have to agree, allowing simply ideas to be patented risks stifliing creativity not to mention the competition implications. issue a holding patent, build a test version, prove it is marketable and beneficial to society within a given timeframe then issue the patent proper 
   
 
Surely your system would limit patents to only those with huge finances to register patents. Joe Bloggs who came up with an awesome idea, design it end to end but not have the finances to prove it...then company X comes along, takes the idea produces it - registers it and then makes all the money from it. 
 
You can't just register ideas as patents. You have to show how it would work using existing technologies or describe the new technology you are disclosing.
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Dom 
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quote: Originally posted by Rob_Quads 
quote: Originally posted by John 
Of course they exist at the moment, you can power a TV wirelessly in a lab. 
   
 
Have you actually read what the parent is or have you just gone off the blog article/comments here? The patent is not just about wireless power its about all the protocols etc behind it, controlling what device charges when etc. This is all very patentable stuff.
   
 
The patent just states how NFMR could work and how Apple believe it might be implemented. There's certainly no technology, NFMR has been around for years anyway, or anything ground-breaking in the patent.
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Whittie 
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How wireless are they talking? 
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