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Author 1.6 16v in a 1.4 8v
Cavey
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6th Sep 03 at 01:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looking at doing this, just wondering what i'm gonna need -:

ECU, Clutch, Gearbox ? any of that gonna have to be changed ?

Cheers people
Cavey
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6th Sep 03 at 01:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

After having a quick search, i believe that it should be a straight swop, but the ratios on the gearbox are slightly different @ lower end...

Just want someone to confirm all this for me

It's a C16XE that i'm planning on btw...

I have a 1993 K REG @ the moment
hopper
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6th Sep 03 at 09:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

alrite mate. it is a basic swop, you basicaly need everyfin from under the bonnet of a sport, ie engine, wireing loom, ecu. rnt sure bout the box you may be able use urs
Cavey
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9th Sep 03 at 16:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Right, just been to a bloke to ask about this Conversion...

He's saying i need like hopper has said, the Engine, loom, ECU etc..etc...

The engine i'm hopefully sourcing by itself, for a decent price... where could i get the ECU and anything else from, and what sort of price am i looking at ?

On another note... would i be better going for 2.0 8v ?

Thanks for any help

Oh, he's also saying the Gearbox would probably need changing too
dafydd
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9th Sep 03 at 16:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i may have a 1.6 16v engine box and everything you need for sale, out of a l reg gsi, send me a u2u if interested
Cavey
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9th Sep 03 at 17:27   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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hopper
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9th Sep 03 at 18:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if your buyin a engine seperate from the loom etc you have be careful cuz a ecu from another car may not match, your best gettin everyfin from 1 car. cavey wot reg is your car, how long you had it.
Cavey
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9th Sep 03 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It's K reg, i've had it for a year and a bit now, pretty high mileage though
hopper
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9th Sep 03 at 18:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

your name int adam by any chance is it?
Cavey
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Haha, yeah, whatever gave you that idea ? I could do with talking to you about my Brakes actually
Mav 3000
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I've got a couple of questions, cos my 16s have made my car so slow i need a bigger engine!

1) If i bought an engine, how do i pick it up and take it to the people doing the conversion? will it fit in my boot etc?

2) Does the engine loom plug into the car loom? where abouts? is it complicated and do the wires have to be run everywhere or is it a plug and play job?
hopper
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9th Sep 03 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

is your corsa reg k205 xhg
cobra148
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10th Sep 03 at 09:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mav, yes it will fit in the boot, you'll need two people to lift it in and out though.
Sorry, can't comment on the loom.
Greasemonkey
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10th Sep 03 at 09:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well i gotta pick up a C16Xe engine very soon, if i put the engine in the boot and remove the passenger seat and put the gearbox there will it be ok. Cars lowered 40mm on 17's!!!!
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If you can carry passengers in the rear with no problems, then you should be ok with an engine and box I would think.
Daimo B
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Your car will ahve an F13 gearbox. GSi's come witha n F15 gearbox. But, you should be able to fit your current gearbox with no problems. Should just about hit the rev limiter in 5th as well (117mph).

ECU, u may need the chip in the key as well. Im nto 100% sure, but ry re-postnig this on Mig as they usually know there gibbons!
Cybermonkey
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His gearbox may be an F10. The only pre-1995 gearboxes above the F10 were the F13 for an SRi and the F15 for the GSi. The F10 gearbox is not suitable for the C16XE engine, but an F13 gearbox will be just fine. In fact, the F13 gearbox was used for GSi's after 1995.
hopper
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yeah cavey it is kev. glad to hear my old motors still goin. i got rid of the van, had an astra sport, got rid of that cuz want happy now got another k-reg sri same as my old un. wot else you done to it since you ad it off me.
anz
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10th Sep 03 at 17:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oooh, this is relavent for me

basically, how much u lookin for engine, ecu etc, ALL U NEED basically, not gearbox tho...
PeteMTBer
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10th Sep 03 at 17:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

My mate picked a civic vti engine up in his rover 114 GTa. It was already slammed.
Cant of been a nice ride home.
Cavey
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10th Sep 03 at 21:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, it's driving all right, started ticking though, and it's pissing me off ! And i want a bit more power/less mileage on it...

Not really done anything to it, i've added a go fast dent along the Passenger side, reckon it adds at least 10BHP

Done the ICE up a bit, that Kenny HU died, got a sony one and a few JBL bits in the boot.

ANYWAY... So you reckon it should be fine with the gearbox that's already in it ? Also, could i get an ECU from a different 1.6 16v ? would that work or not, at the moment, think it's just the engine that i'm looking at, although i have asked him if he could source the ECU, Loom etc..etc.. as well, fingers crossed
hopper
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11th Sep 03 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cavey as for the spec of your car when you brought it off me

standard engine with drilled air box, cat back mongoose stainless exhaust, lowered 40mm but they were nova springs, 2ltr 16v front brakes with mintex discs and vauxhall pads, elec sunroof from a 1989 carlton cdx, electric windows out of 1998 corsa sport.

i would try and get everyfin from the same car regardin the engine you want cuz with everyfin been electric controlled sometimes the ecu needs reprograming and thats a pain.

as for the lifters been noisy they were new at 100k

Cavey
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11th Sep 03 at 20:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cheers mate, been wondering what had been done to it for a while now

I failed my MOT cause of that tiny little crack in the friggin corner of the windscreen ya know ! Had to get a new windscreen.

and yeah, i'm planning on getting everything from the same person now, how much would you do me the swap for ?

 
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