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Greasemonkey
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19th Aug 03 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I got a GSI and I am having such a hard time deciding what to do, my engine is blowing a bit of blue smoke now (C16 XE) and is tuned to 130+bhp, do i get a recon engine as i fitted a Mantzel power box a couple of months back and carry on tuning or drop in a
C20 XE, the C20 XE has 150BHP as standard which aint far off what i got now and is heavier will i notice allot of difference cos it has more touqe, what do you think?????
I was considering a C20 LET but traction is a major problem and i dont think my funds will streach that far.
lee mitchell
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19th Aug 03 at 12:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ive got a tuned 1.6 in my gsi running bout 140bhp and ive got a standard 2 litre in my other corsa. the 2 litre has alot more torque ut to be honest there doesnt feel much difference in it. if i tuned my 1.6 to more it would be very close.
miles
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19th Aug 03 at 12:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I've got a 164bhp 1.6 16v nova.

At Santa Pod I raced a 160bhp 2.0 16v nova. He beat me by 0.004 seconds. However, that was due to my poor launch, he pulled right ahead of me, then after about an 8th of a mile I realed him right in. My terminal speed was 98.2, his was 93, so had the track been a few yards longer I would have beaten him.

For the cost though a 2.0 might be the easiest, depends how much handling you want to keep....

Dont get a recon engine, just fix yours.
Patrick
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19th Aug 03 at 13:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What was your 1/4 time out of interest?

My 1.6 16v in the Corsa was 15.118 @ 93mph with 170bhp.
Greasemonkey
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A C16 XE with big horse power has low touqe figures and thats what you need for a quick off the mark car aint it, just out of interest what mods you had done to your 1.6 16v engines to acheve that power i am thinking i should have gone for throttle bodies
Patrick
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Throttle bodies, head, cams, chip etc..
miles
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I did a 14.804, but think i can get it down to 14.5 with a bit of practice. Throttle bodies and a new management system are needed for decent power.

Torque's not whats needed off the mark. Torque's what prevents traction. I have 130lb/ft so its not too shy on the torque front....

Torque is whats needed to pull up hills without dropping it a gear.
Greasemonkey
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how much for the throttle bodies matey where you get them from, did ya fit them your self
miles
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I got it all from various places, new and secondhand. Fitted it all myself, had it mapped pro. SBD sell a kit for about £1500 I think...
Greasemonkey
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19th Aug 03 at 15:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and for that money what power gains am i gonna be looking at, really carnt decide what to do
cheers
miles
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The kit is called the 164 kit, it claims 164bhp, but thats rarely achieved. I think SBD got it once on an engine dyno with no electrical load etc.
luca2020
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the 164 kit needs their sbd exhaust manifold and exhaust to match it (2.5")

the kit is about 2k, and the manifold is just over 300
miles
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It doesn't need it, but they want to sell it to you, and it will gain a few bhp.

Im using a Janspeed manifold with a custom 2" system. I make fairly good power. I was told by my engine tuner that all big exhausts do is make more noise.
Kris TD
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isnt 2 1/2 inch too big for a N/A engine?
miles
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Its what SBD reccomend. But it is damn fat for an N/A 1.6 engine.
Eastbounre Corsa Bloke
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20th Aug 03 at 12:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just wonderding would part fomr a c20xe fit with like the c16xe n stuff or not ?
Greasemonkey
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the C20XE is a big block engine and the C16XE is a small block engine dont think andything is interchangable
Eastbounre Corsa Bloke
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poop, oh well
miles
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What parts are you thinking about? Some after market stuff is universal.
Eastbounre Corsa Bloke
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20th Aug 03 at 16:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just n e stuff 2 make car go faster

 
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