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5xi
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   17th Aug 03 at 18:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It is time for me to upgrade!!!

But i need some help. I want a mono amp to run a sub of about 500/600 RMS power. Could you lot help with some suggestion of with one are good.
I thinking of about £180 for sub (12")and between £200/300 for amp. I had a 200 w RMS rockfosgate sub which i liked the sound of so prob keep with one of them but a more powerful version!!

Also i have infinity 505cs components. They are 75 w RMS so could u also suggest a amp to run these Are these powerful enough thou????

To start i am fully sound deading the car, but what else do i need to do. i got a good wiring kit already, except i will need a lower gauge power and earth cables. Do i need a power cap??? (i got a SXI C if it makes a difference, no Air-CON)

Should i have speakers in the back...if so i would need a 4 channel amp. Or should i keep it simple:-components in front and sub in back?

Thanks!

Adam
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17th Aug 03 at 19:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ROC-RFD2112, Rockford fosgate 12" DVC 500RMS/1000peak £180

KEN-KAC8151D, Kenwood mono amp, 500RMSx1 at 1ohm = £165
5xi
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17th Aug 03 at 19:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The kenwood amp..

SPECIFICATIONS AT 14,4V

200 W Rated power (4Ohm, 20 ~ 200Hz), 0.5%THD
400 W Rated power (2Ohm, 100Hz), 0.5%THD
500 W Rated power (1Ohm), 1.0%THD
1000 W Maximum output power

14,4V....what this mean i thought it was 12V

also the Rockford fosgate ub doesn't run at 1ohm, so that amp would underpower the sub ??




Any other suggests/recommendations plz

[Edited on 17-08-2003 by 5xi]

[Edited on 17-08-2003 by 5xi]
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there are 2 types of the rockford sub - 2212 and 2112, would one of these beable to run at 1 ohm for the amp?
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for fucks sake one more person tells me im wrong this week when im right again im gonna go off my tits.

12" woofer
3" Voice Coil
Dual 2-ohm voice coils
Power range
500 watts RMS (250 watts per voice coil)
Peak power 1,000 watts


Dual 2 ohm voice coils wired in parallel = 1ohm.


When the engine is on the voltage will be around 14.4volts.

[Edited on 17-08-2003 by AustinPXX]
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what's the diff between the 2112 and 2212? is one 4 ohm and the other 2 ohm voice coils austin?
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The 2212 is dual 4 ohm.
The 2112 is dual 2 ohm.
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ta m8ty
5xi
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Calm down m8,



didn't mean to imply that u were wrong, i just didn't know it was to do with wiring. Thanks for clearing that up.
Anway would i notice a difference in quailty between say that kenwood and say an equivalent roakford amp (i know they are a bit more expensive, but is it worth it?)

Thkz
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i think you would hear a diff in quality, but it really depends on your budget.

for the money though, the Kenwood amp looks pretty impressive IMO.

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17th Aug 03 at 21:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What about this amp

ROC-PUNCH501S

Number of Channels: 2
RMS Power (4ohms): 125 W
RMS Power (2ohms): 250 W
Bridged RMS Power (4ohms): 500 W
Quoted Max Power (4ohms): 1500 W

Built-In Crossovers: LPF 50-250Hz & HPF 50-250Hz 12dB

Should get this opposed to the kenwood, to go this that rockford SUB?
What are the benefits. It cost £239.99. is it worth an extra £75
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well you would have to wire the voice coils in series to get the 500RMS output. Would also be a cleaner signal, so yeh you could
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cool...cheers!!
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OK.... i have decided on what i am getting.....

ROC-PUNCH301S To power my infinity components

Number of Channels: 2
RMS Power (4ohms): 75 W

and...
ROC-PUNCH501S

Number of Channels: 2
RMS Power (4ohms): 125 W
RMS Power (2ohms): 250 W

To power this sub....

ROC-RFD2112, 500w RMS

I think i will need a power cap, not sure thou. What's out there but not to expensive!!!

Also can i run one power cable but split it to the two amp??? Would an gauge be enough??

Cheers

[Edited on 18-08-2003 by 5xi]
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ttt
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austin could you plesae draw lil diagram to show how the amp would be wired in series for the sub

ta m8ty

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I think i will need a power cap, not sure thou. What's out there but not to expensive!!!

Also can i run one power cable but split it to the two amp??? Would an 8 gauge be enough??

Cheers

[Edited on 18-08-2003 by 5xi]
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Ice Ice Babbbbbbyyyy
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ttt

 
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