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Just me who finds Interlagos an incredibly boring track? Needs to be longer with a few more straights in the middle I think.


I quite like interlagos, lots of flowing corners but the off camber turns in the middle always make the cars look a bit awkward.

It's just a shame it's in the centre of a massive shithole, and would never want to spectate there.



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Snooze fest yet again.

As Lewis said, impossible to pass.
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They need to make the tyres a bit more resilient. If your 3 stopping you should at least be able to push hard. Half way through the stint Hamilton had used them all up. For the softer compound it's more acceptable but for the harder compound that's not great IMO. Drivers should not be having to cruise round to save tyres
Unless they fix they we just won't get any tight races at the front if it's the same manufacturer in 1 & 2
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Snooze fest yet again.

As Lewis said, impossible to pass.


Senna would have passed.
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Snooze fest yet again.

As Lewis said, impossible to pass.


Probably too tired from all the partying
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Snooze fest yet again.

As Lewis said, impossible to pass.


Senna would have passed.


Lewis in senna's car and Senna in Lewis' car. Who would win?

I'd hazard a guess that Senna's car would be a lot easier to drive than this new lot. Seems a right ballache pressing a million buttons, managing tyres and fuel, not getting within a second of the car infront, not being able to make contact through fear of penalties etc etc.

It's become incredibly boring and for the neutral watcher, I bet they must think the same.

Fair enough Lewis couldn't pass Nico but he had a few chances in which I feel he could've but would've incurred the wraith of Arnie wannabe Toto if he had made any contact.
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Snooze fest yet again.

As Lewis said, impossible to pass.


Probably too tired from all the partying


3x world champion. That is all.
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Impossible to pass?

Even Maldanado managed that.
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Two closely matched drivers in identical cars should give an interesting race but instead you just end up with a situation where if the guy behind gets too close he kills his tyres due to the loss of downforce from travelling in the dirty air. It's sad because F1 could fix this with technical regs but they seem reluctant to do so.

Taking nothing away from Nico btw, he deserved the win by virtue of putting his car on pole and getting to the first corner in front, from then on you just have to keep it tidy and control the race.
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Impossible to pass?

Even Maldanado managed that.


Maldonado passed a Mercedes whilst driving a Mercedes? Surprised by that.
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Just me who finds Interlagos an incredibly boring track? Needs to be longer with a few more straights in the middle I think.


I quite like interlagos, lots of flowing corners but the off camber turns in the middle always make the cars look a bit awkward.

It's just a shame it's in the centre of a massive shithole, and would never want to spectate there.



São Paulo is an awesome place don't knock it until you have been
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The commentators said the track is surrounded by Favela's. Favela's are in shitholes, so Kyle is correct.
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I have been Ben so it's my opinion

Yes the surrounding area immediate are bad but São Paulo is awesome
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I won't disagree with you there mate. Mostly as i've never been there but also because I know you travel a lot which I am rather envious of

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They need to make the tyres a bit more resilient. If your 3 stopping you should at least be able to push hard. Half way through the stint Hamilton had used them all up. For the softer compound it's more acceptable but for the harder compound that's not great IMO. Drivers should not be having to cruise round to save tyres
Unless they fix they we just won't get any tight races at the front if it's the same manufacturer in 1 & 2

It does rather make you wonder what use the new 'ultrasoft' compound from Pirelli will be. 10 laps of Monaco and it's finished? What a farce. Will watch the test on 1st Dec anyway.

I'd personally like to see tyres that could last the distance but with a single stop teams could play with strategy if the new rubber was significantly faster.

Refuelling was talked about this weekend again I see; I do hope that idea fucks off back to the hole it surfaced from - it was even worse than the tyres nonsense we have now and it's expensive.

Overall, a lacklustre weekend of racing I thought.
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I have been Ben so it's my opinion

Yes the surrounding area immediate are bad but São Paulo is awesome


I was referring to the immediate area.


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Re: tyres, what we need is this:

The hardest/slowest compound should be able to comfortably last a race distance (including a mandatory stop if needed)

The softest/fastest compound should be a 3 stop compound but the simulated race time should be within 10seconds of the hardest tyre.

If they could have an array of compounds that allowed for that scenario at every GP weekend, we'd see some cracking races - but with minimal Pirelli testing it's a bit of a pipe dream I suppose.

An uber-soft compound which allows for similar laptimes with significantly less aero could be another option for 2017.


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The ultra compound may make it interesting

Hamilton didn't sound himself post interview

He blamed suspected floor damage which didn't sound convincing to me

Let's hope next year they have a few challengers at least from Ferrari

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I have been Ben so it's my opinion

Yes the surrounding area immediate are bad but São Paulo is awesome


I was referring to the immediate area.


I agree there but it's about a 30 min drive from the centre

Although at least double the time at race weekend

I went into the circuit and the main grand stand has a great view as you look down across all the circuit so you can see most of the corners

It's concrete slabs though so not the most comfortable I would imagine

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São Paulo is huge 26M people


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watch motogp, even the worst races are 100% better than yesterdays F1 race
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I watched a replay of the Valencia [I think] MotoGP over the weekend. Wish it wasn't on BTSport otherwise I'd make a point of following it. Rossi ploughed through about 10 riders up to the first corner. More overtakes right there than a whole race in F1 some weekends.

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