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Ben G

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7th Dec 14 at 17:48

2 legends and friends together.

Marc

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7th Dec 14 at 18:02

Sounds a bit gay.

Ben G

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7th Dec 14 at 18:07

Not really.

Rick Draper

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7th Dec 14 at 19:44

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G2 legends and friends together.

Sorry but you cannot class those two as both been legends. One has dominated for years winning 6 world championships at the very highest level and is still going strong proving people wrong all the time, the other has won a world championship twice at the highest level. I'd not class Alonso as a legend either before people start.

Far better to compare Rossi to Schumacher, Vettel, Loeb etc imho.

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7th Dec 14 at 19:56

That's your opinion though, not a fact.

I think of them both as legends and couldn't care less if you disagree

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7th Dec 14 at 20:05

quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G2 legends and friends together.

Sorry but you cannot class those two as both been legends. One has dominated for years winning 6 world championships at the very highest level and is still going strong proving people wrong all the time, the other has won a world championship twice at the highest level. I'd not class Alonso as a legend either before people start.

Far better to compare Rossi to Schumacher, Vettel, Loeb etc imho.

Rossi dominated on the best bike on the grid, then jumped ship to one that was a bit of a dog and won the world championship on that, unless Vettel wins next year with Ferrari, that's a bad comparison.

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7th Dec 14 at 21:51

quote:
Originally posted by Dave

quote:
Originally posted by Rick Draper

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G2 legends and friends together.

Sorry but you cannot class those two as both been legends. One has dominated for years winning 6 world championships at the very highest level and is still going strong proving people wrong all the time, the other has won a world championship twice at the highest level. I'd not class Alonso as a legend either before people start.

Far better to compare Rossi to Schumacher, Vettel, Loeb etc imho.

Rossi dominated on the best bike on the grid, then jumped ship to one that was a bit of a dog and won the world championship on that, unless Vettel wins next year with Ferrari, that's a bad comparison.

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8th Dec 14 at 09:36

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

2 legends and friends together.

won 2 world titles - one of which with a car in which any of the top ten drivers would have won the championship and now he is a legend

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8th Dec 14 at 10:08

quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

2 legends and friends together.

won 2 world titles - one of which with a car in which any of the top ten drivers would have won the championship and now he is a legend

So Nico is not in the top ten then? Controversial.

[Edited on 08-12-2014 by JonnyJ]

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8th Dec 14 at 15:45

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G

2 legends and friends together.

won 2 world titles - one of which with a car in which any of the top ten drivers would have won the championship and now he is a legend

So Nico is not in the top ten then? Controversial.

[Edited on 08-12-2014 by JonnyJ]

unless I missed something Nico was not far behind - and well in front of any other of the teams

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8th Dec 14 at 18:42

He was 67 points behind mate. Regardless he didn't win the championship which is what you said any top 10 driver could do in that team.

Any top 10 driver couldn't win as they'd have to be good enough to beat Nico in the first place. I'd argue only Alonso and maybe Ricciardo could've managed that.

2 drivers in a team remember.

[Edited on 08-12-2014 by JonnyJ]

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8th Dec 14 at 18:49

Is it March yet?

Dave

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8th Dec 14 at 18:54

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Is it March yet?

Is that when McLaren are announcing their driver line up now?

Jambo

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8th Dec 14 at 19:57

Wouldn't ducking surprise me

Ben G

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8th Dec 14 at 20:47

Hunger games style fight for the 2 places imo.

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quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
He was 67 points behind mate. Regardless he didn't win the championship which is what you said any top 10 driver could do in that team.

Any top 10 driver couldn't win as they'd have to be good enough to beat Nico in the first place. I'd argue only Alonso and maybe Ricciardo could've managed that.

2 drivers in a team remember.

[Edited on 08-12-2014 by JonnyJ]

we will agree to disagree then rather than have a 2015 thread about whether Hamilton is a legend or not

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9th Dec 14 at 10:06

Rossi has got 5 years on Hamilton's career, let's see how they both look post retirement tbh.

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9th Dec 14 at 16:09

quote:
Originally posted by whitter45

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
He was 67 points behind mate. Regardless he didn't win the championship which is what you said any top 10 driver could do in that team.

Any top 10 driver couldn't win as they'd have to be good enough to beat Nico in the first place. I'd argue only Alonso and maybe Ricciardo could've managed that.

2 drivers in a team remember.

[Edited on 08-12-2014 by JonnyJ]

we will agree to disagree then rather than have a 2015 thread about whether Hamilton is a legend or not

Think we've crossed wires here. I wasnt arguing for or against Lewis being a legend now hes won 2 WDC [hed be a legend to me if he won none but then if i had a uterus id have his babies] it was more the fact that his 2nd championship shouldnt be dismissed as an easy win just because the car was dominant. You made it sound like all he had to do was show up and he would win but that would be very derogatory towards Nico who put up a hell of a fight.

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9th Dec 14 at 16:24

quote:
Originally posted by Kyle T
Rossi has got 5 years on Hamilton's career, let's see how they both look post retirement tbh.

By the age of 30 he had already won the WC 5 times and one the year he was 30/1.

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9th Dec 14 at 16:42

http://www.managementtoday.co.uk/news/1325672/

Bernie on the way out?

Ben G

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9th Dec 14 at 17:39

Hope so, he looks half dead.

JonnyJ

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10th Dec 14 at 12:30

Journalists have been invited to a "media event" at Mclaren tomorrow. Surely its the driver line up announcement.

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10th Dec 14 at 13:10

BBC seem to think so:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/30417196

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Ben G

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10th Dec 14 at 20:12

Button out, Alonso and magnussen in.

Why would you want 2 old fogies?

[Edited on 10-12-2014 by Ben G]

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10th Dec 14 at 20:13

quote:
Originally posted by JonnyJ
....championship shouldnt be dismissed as an easy win just because the car was dominant.

Although you have said the opposite in the past about other drivers who've been in a similar situation

quote:
Originally posted by Ben G
Why do you want 2 old fogies?

Two highly experienced drivers would be extremely useful to a team. A mediocre newbie, not so much. But unfortunately it's all coming down to money and control of power in this case, hence the stall in selecting a line-up.

[Edited on 10-12-2014 by Dom]

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