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andy1868
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18th Mar 14 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A few weeks before all this properly kicked off was a damning report into concentration camps in North Korea, nobody gave 2 hoots. Russia annexes a piece of land that wants to be annexed and the world goes fucking nuts. Discuss at length.
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18th Mar 14 at 21:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I dont really give a fuck... Quite like how russia is doing it regardless
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18th Mar 14 at 21:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by micra_pete
It was Ruski for over a hundred year. Ruskies want it back.

My comrades in the Crimea agree.


My comrade from Ukraine doesn't.
Tiger
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19th Mar 14 at 07:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The campaign has similarities to the invasion of Poland by Germany that began WW2.
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19th Mar 14 at 08:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There will be no military action and rightly so. They'll continue introducing sanctions until it all blows over.
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19th Mar 14 at 09:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

leave them to it
Tiger
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19th Mar 14 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ukraine have just drawn up plans to withdraw citizens and soldiers from Crimea.

Russia have won that pretty damn easily eh. Who's next!
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19th Mar 14 at 18:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Russia have made every other 'superpower' look like absolute mugs.

Silly threats with no substance to back them up.
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19th Mar 14 at 18:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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Originally posted by Ben G
Silly threats with no substance to back them up.


'Substance' being what exactly?

You'd have to be pretty special and borderline suicidal to go aggravating Russia with war and P's solution would have had little affect on stopping Russia taking control of Crimea.

Tbf, there wasn't anything that could have been done. All nation's can do now is create repercussions and even then Europe's got to tread lightly as we're dependant on oil/gas exports.
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19th Mar 14 at 19:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Agreed, but don't start talking the talk, theres just no need.

I've seen the words ''serious consqeuences'' being thrown around. Are we ever going to see them? Or is it just mind games?
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19th Mar 14 at 19:54   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Kazakhstan next on russia's hit list
N16K
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19th Mar 14 at 20:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Personally I do not believe that the UK should be giving (money) aid to the Ukraine.

[Edited on 19-03-2014 by N16K]
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My NI number ends in A, think that means Ill be called up and shoot at russians first
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22nd Mar 14 at 16:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

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quote:
Originally posted by p
Attack the rouble.


How would that have a direct affect on Russia taking control of Crimea?

Well something has to be done? Attack the rouble, attack their currency. Don't think the Russian economy is that great as it is. I mean things are really sketchy at the moment and the situation is changing all the time. If some of the big boys start losing serious money over this they'll put pressure on Putin.
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So far the russians whose assets have been frozen have simply laughed it off and treated it like a joke, so clearly that sanction avenue hasnt worked. So what next?

Well what would you suggest?
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22nd Mar 14 at 17:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Nuclear war imo
Tiger
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23rd Mar 14 at 19:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Looks like Russia could be planning an invasion of Ukraine, troops massing at the border. At least according to Head of NATO security.
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23rd Mar 14 at 21:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

May aswell - the rest of the world are distracted looking for lost planes
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Ukraine says Donetsk 'anti-terror operation' under way


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27035196
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quote:
Originally posted by andy1868
A few weeks before all this properly kicked off was a damning report into concentration camps in North Korea, nobody gave 2 hoots. Russia annexes a piece of land that wants to be annexed and the world goes fucking nuts. Discuss at length.
not everyone wanted to be annexed... take the religion out and its really little diff from the northern ireland situation. in theory.
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RAF fighter jets scrambled to investigate Russian planes tonight, apparently approaching north coast of Scotland.
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RAF fighter jets scrambled to investigate Russian planes tonight, apparently approaching north coast of Scotland.


Russia do this at least a few times a year, usually to test response times and attempt to rile the government - certainly nothing to worry about
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23rd Apr 14 at 21:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Am stocking up on air rifle pellets.

just in case.
Tiger
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
RAF fighter jets scrambled to investigate Russian planes tonight, apparently approaching north coast of Scotland.


Russia do this at least a few times a year, usually to test response times and attempt to rile the government - certainly nothing to worry about


Yeah, apparently around 8 times a year by air, and also by sea occasionally too, apparently one incident this year involving a russian destroyer too.
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24th Apr 14 at 21:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wonder if its worth it to russia, to send 2 big bombers and a destroyer just to probe what our response times are by air and sea? must cost a fair bit? them TU-95's are pretty big aftall, wonder if they do it to a few other countries too?

Must be a good job, being in the RAF or whatever when stuff like this happens

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