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Martin W
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3rd Nov 12 at 10:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have fitted some bigger calipers and disks to my track car but can't seem to bleed the brakes. We have used new flexi hoses as well but still nothing. We have also had the caliper off and the piston does move. Fluid is moving as we keep having to top it up when we are trying to bleed them.

Any ideas?

[Edited on 03-11-2012 by deadliner]
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3rd Nov 12 at 10:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

There may be a leak in the system allowing air in. May well be on one of the new hose joints. Can you bleed 3 but not the other or cant bleed any?
Martin W
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quote:
Originally posted by *CorsaCal*
There may be a leak in the system allowing air in. May well be on one of the new hose joints. Can you bleed 3 but not the other or cant bleed any?


I can bleed all so there is no air in them but still no pedal pressure. Is the bleed nipple supposed to be at the top or bottom?
bigron1988
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3rd Nov 12 at 10:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Top as air will rise I there at the bottom they won't bleed up
*CorsaCal*
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quote:
Originally posted by bigron1988
Top as air will rise I there at the bottom they won't bleed up


It is also posible that the seal in the master cylinder has failed when trying to bleed as the cylinder travels further than normal and may hit a slightly corroded/abrasive surface.
Martin W
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quote:
Originally posted by bigron1988
Top as air will rise I there at the bottom they won't bleed up


Cheers Ron, that explains the problem
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3rd Nov 12 at 18:00   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Classic upside down caliper. I had this before


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Jamie-C
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When I was bleeding my Corsa brakes I couldn't get a good pedal either no matter how many times I tried to get the air out. Block of wood and wedged the pedal down over night and the pedal was much better.
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quote:
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When I was bleeding my Corsa brakes I couldn't get a good pedal either no matter how many times I tried to get the air out. Block of wood and wedged the pedal down over night and the pedal was much better.


Calipers were upside down and now it's done. Pedal is shit and spongy though doesn't kick in till 3/4 of the way down. Reckon that piece of wood trick will work?
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It worked for me, my brakes were terrible and I wedged the pedal down against the seat for a day and they were much better. Give it a bash, over night should do it.
Christopher
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Did the exact same thing deadliner! Spent a WHOLE 12 hours bleeding the brakes after fitting my 2.0l ones until realising we'd put them on upside down
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3rd Nov 12 at 23:18   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Are you bleeding them in the correct order? Also what front brakes have you got? 288's give a shit pedal travel.
Martin W
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quote:
Originally posted by corsadonk
Are you bleeding them in the correct order? Also what front brakes have you got? 288's give a shit pedal travel.


288 callipers 280 discs
Darryl H
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4th Nov 12 at 11:25   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

288 with 280 disks is what I have, they're a bit spongy but they aren't so bad you can't feel pressure though

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have you adjusted the free travel between the pedal and servo? theres a adjuster nut where the pin goes through the pedal, get as little as possible free travel here and you should get better pedal feel! never great with bigger calipers but least youve got better braking effort.

 
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