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broster
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6th Apr 03 at 11:02   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

any1 no what kinda power gains to be expected from a superchip? or which other chip do ppl recomend an how much are they? my car is a 1.4 16v, engine is standard p[art from a viper induction kit
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with a chip ur looking at about 5bhp+, ive got a BBR chip in mine and it feels more resonsive and runs a lot better. phone around for chips as some are better than others
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6th Apr 03 at 11:08   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how much was urs?
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whats your induction kit like feller ?
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6th Apr 03 at 11:11   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it sounds mint, but it does make a diff, engine revs a bit better an it pulls loads better mid revs, 5th gear pulls better too. worth the money i recon
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i got mine at a 'discounted price' of 50 quid coz i'd just spent 750 quid on my motor
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what did u have done to it, whats the best mods for my engine, what wood u do, dont wanna swop the engine tho!
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6th Apr 03 at 11:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

the chip was a direct replacement from the original one - goes straight in the ecu.

normal route is zorst/filter/chip and/or cams
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make it sound rapid by sticking a centre section on, remove silencer, neighbours wont like it but fuck em
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dont want it to sound rapid, want it to go faster!!! cams are expencive, do u get good power gains?
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a chip alone wont really do much to the performance, but if you change any components from standard, especially 3 or 4 major items like exhaust system, filter and cams, then a chip will re-map what the car should do, and it will be set up to run with those mods you've fitted, thus making the mods work better, and its another thing on the spec list isnt it..lol

EFi superchips fitted are about 300 quid i think.
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6th Apr 03 at 13:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if i did chip, cams, zorst, manufold, an filter, what bhp wood my 1.4 16v sport be?
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I'd personally recomend(have got):-
1st. Inducion kit for noise +2bhp £70 to £250 (pipercross £70)
2nd. De-cat pipe +5% £70 (janspeed mild steel £70)
3rd. Inlet manifold +20 to+25bhp £250-£700 (Velos plenum £700)
4th. Chip +5bhp £70 to £1000 (unichip £400)
5th. Race Head +????bhp £300+++ Cams, 1 piece valves, ported etc
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6th Apr 03 at 15:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

do inlet manifolds reallyt give that much!!!?
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Pre mapped chips are totaly shite. On the Punto forum a lad who writes chips posted the mapping graphs of a superchip and it was almost standard!! the little chip itself costs £3 so the pople who make superchips are simply buying loads of these chips at £3, putting almost standard mapping onto them with a raised rev limit and then selling them at stupid prices £250 - £400.
The best chip for money is a Dastek (Uni chip) these are unmapped so need to be mapped onto your car. They cost around £250 but then you need to pay for the time on the rollers to get it set up, altogether usualy costs £400. The uni chip will make much, much more difference than a pre mapped chip. The Uni chip will also make your car better to drive as it has 17 point mapping rather than 7 point mapping. I would guess you'll be looking at at least 10Bhp and 10-15ft/lb torque.
Don't forget, a Uni chip is an unmapped, piggy back ECU so they are all the same - if you see someone selling one it doesn't matter what car its from it will go on yours but you will have to have it mapped on the rollers. You can find people selling them for around £100 - £150.
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6th Apr 03 at 16:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thanx, seems thats the one to go for then, shall i fit it after i fit an inlet manifold? which is the best value for money inlet manifold to get then?
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6th Apr 03 at 16:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yep, fit chip last thing
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If you fit a unichip then you can get it re-mapped should needs be!
Had mine set up with me inlet manifold as they run weaker with the extra air flow.
Then just paid for rolling road time for them to adjust it to me de-cat pipe!
Didnt need adjusting though.
Rev limit isn't adjusted with a unichip though, its an extra add on unit, which im gonna get soon!

My 1.6 16V Sport was 76bhp at wheels, 102bhp at wheels with inlet manifold and chip!
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thats an impressive increase you got there. so its about 130bhp at the fly. Thats damn good! well done.
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wolf, what inlet manifold u got? what other mods u done for that?? just inlet induction kit an uni chip~?
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7th Apr 03 at 14:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right then
im also in the same situation here -
i already have a k and n induction kit and stainless exhaust!
what tuning parts can i get for around £1500 to make a difference on my 1.4 16v sport! cant afford conversion insurance as im still 17!
whats this velos gear like?
what about the lexmaul manifold??
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My Photos - Corsa Sport 1.6
I've just spent a similar amount on mine, see photos above.
Inlet plenum + unichip £1100 fitted-over 2 days (velos) (not including header tank)
ARP Con-Rod bolts £150 fitted (velos)
Janspeed De-Cat + new standard system £100 fitted (Demon Tweeks)

Soon - Unichip Rev Limit unit, Gonna go from 6700 to 7200/7500rpm (softcut) (velos) as power is only stopped by limiter-keeps rising!

+32bhp at wheels for chip and plenum speaks for itself!
+20bhp for £285 for torque tube though, some 1 in another thread was offering to make 1 for £100 though!
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Manzal inlet manifold and fitting for the 1.4 16v is about £800 i think, ull have to phone them up

Also get a Janspeed exhaust manifold and de-cat pipe £260 for both + fitting which should be about £50

Then get unichip and get it mapped to ur Inlet manifold, exhaust manifold, de-cat pipe and zorst system that u allready have

ull be beating GSi corsas all day
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7th Apr 03 at 19:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

this velos stuff sounds pretty good!
the £1100 for unichip amd plenum chamber sounds good! then id go for the con rod bolts and the de-cat! so maybe looking at around 20 bhp increase at the fly?? what about some fast road/rally cams??
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7th Apr 03 at 23:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Velos sell piper cams but said it aint really worth the cash, unless you go mad and get throttle boddies!
De-cat and inlet manifold have to be the best bhp per pound!

1.4 and 1.6 manifolds are the same, so bhp figures are quoted at +30%
1.4 Only seems to be 20bhp behind as there top package (£5000) takes the 1.4 to 165bhp and the 1.6 to 185bhp!!!!

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