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and-m
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29th Mar 03 at 23:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just after some input for any handling problems you guys mightve encountered with a 2.0 16v engine under the bonnet.

My current wheels are 195/50/15 ET46 with Toyo Proxes T1-S tyres which seem good. Suspension is a Bilstein Streetline setup which is pretty new. I understand Ill need new springs for the front, will the dampers be up to the job?

Is the handling seriously affected (some before/after ideas would be cool.)

Cheers peeps

Cybermonkey
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30th Mar 03 at 11:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The Corsa shell is quite solid and well up to the job of coping with the 2.0 unit.

dave
and-m
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30th Mar 03 at 14:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No welding needed then?
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   30th Mar 03 at 14:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by and-m
No welding needed then?


nope m8.. not for an standard xe lump... would only weld the bay unless you were pushing 315bhp+

and-m
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30th Mar 03 at 14:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cool, strut brace then?

Does the PVD kit use machined out hubs to take astra CVs/bearings?

Oh and the water pipes...do you need any from the donor car (Astra whatever) or are the Corsa ones OK?

Thanks again.

[Edited on 30-03-2003 by and-m]
corsa C ya
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30th Mar 03 at 20:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes the kit comes with new hubs, and you do need some water pipes from the 2.0
and-m
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30th Mar 03 at 20:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ah...

Cheers for that info.
Pete
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That suspension setup is far from ideal. The dampers are OE spec - good quality units, but not actually uprated, and the springs are Terra - nothing special and not a high enough poundage.
Andy
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Yeah - Billie dampers are good but Terra springs are sh1te - I had both my front springs crack on me after 18 months use. Eibach springs are worth considering and when I dropped them in, the ride quality and handling was significantly improved.
and-m
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31st Mar 03 at 11:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

So Id have to bin the full suspension setup?

This sounsd like too much hassle.
stuyw
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31st Mar 03 at 11:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u have to change ur springs on the front n might need to change the shox as said
and-m
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I think Im rapidly going off the idea!!
Tom
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would be worth it though, what engine you currently running?
and-m
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1.4 SRi 8v
and-m
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Yeah, thats what Im thinking...
stuyw
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dont see many of them for sale though
and-m
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Yup, thats another problem!
stuyw
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i still reckon u should do the conversion, coz u can make it ur own style
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   31st Mar 03 at 17:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

true... but building your own is hassle. but deffo worth it though

as for the suspension... i had custom made 70 mm springs on standard shox...

felt fine...

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quote:
Originally posted by Pete
That suspension setup is far from ideal. The dampers are OE spec - good quality units, but not actually uprated, and the springs are Terra - nothing special and not a high enough poundage.



Ive got GMAX shocks n springs (-40mm) on my nova. over 8 months since i installed my 2ltr 16v and my suspension has dropped less then 10mm

and bilstein "apparantly" is better sh!t then gmax
and-m
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How was the handling before and after, dogz?
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hmmm bit of a hard one that really.

before I installed the engine I was running 14" x 5.5" steelies on 175/55/14 michelin energy sports.

When I put the engine in, I changed to 15" x 7" alloys running yoko 539's (195/45/15).

The difference these tyres make are unbelieveable. As funny as it sounds the car handles better with the 2ltr in then when it didnt. Purely because of the tyres.

Handling now is fine though. You can rag the car around anywhere you want and it sticks to the road. stuck to the road as good as my mates 205 1.9 gti when I was racing him. Only time you have to let off is at 120mph+ where you get understeer and it feels a bit uneasy on sharp bends (as motorways go)

The front end is heavier but you get used to it and just drive the car differently, make sure you got decent suspension, tyres and brakes and you'll be fine
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dogz, saw up up cannock maccys the other nite, my mate came to race u inhis red nova, u stopped and spoke to him i think, he reckons that u daint pull to far on him, could u tell me the real story because i nailed him off the longford island going up the a5, it was red and got a tuned gte 1.6 lump but it says 1.2 on the car!

 
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