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iceman
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21st Aug 09 at 13:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Afternoon
I'm after a little advice, im looking for a conservatory for my new build properly, after reading reviews after reviews on the big names im totally lost on who to go for.
I had anglian over last night for a quote of a conservatory of 3*5.18 metres the quote back was just shy of £19k now i declined this at straight away he reduced it by £5k
I then declined it again thinking £14k for a conservatory of that size is kinda expensive.
Had anyone advise if this price about right? should i say clear of a company who changes its mind so quickly in regards to pricing, who to say they are still overcharging at $14k

Any advise would be muchly appreciated
stu
John_C
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21st Aug 09 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you could buy separately and employ a builder to build it. Would be cheaper than the 14K.

Google shows how much you can buy the structure for

http://www.google.co.uk/products?q=conservatory&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GBfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=y6aOSoexFsHb-QaR3fzyDQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4

Theres a lot of unemployed builders so labour should be fairly cheap
iceman
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problem is that i have to be careful with the NHBC warranty
John_C
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Maybe you can locate a NHBC builder to do it. I dont know about the rules for NHBC.

I think anglican do good work so you maybe able to negotiate more on that. Its a buyers market for everything so just try
iceman
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im awaiting Anglia local area manger to callregarding the price, but ive lost a little trust in them to be honest why suddenly drop from 19k to 14k why couldnt they just say its 14k at the start.
John_C
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Thats sales mate. They have to try. 1 out of 10 will prob agree to initial quote.

Barter to 10k and then ask to see some reference work in your area see what the quality is like.

It would still be cheaper to buy and then get builder to install. Depending on design should only be around 5-6k

iceman
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my 1st impress was that is should be around 8-9k but i guess i was in kookoo lnad with that figure, i did tell him yesterday i wasnt prepared to pay more that 10k for it.. final lol lets see what happens
Jake
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ive been building conservatory bases for hte last 3 years and one tip FUCKING AVOID ANGLIAN
iceman
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any suggestions to who i should use then?
AK
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10k is still a lot for the materials!
Have a look at Wickes, and other places.... you dont HAVE to go with this Anglian folk
Twiggy
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£19k for a bit UPVC and glass

You could do an extension for the money being banterd about
Jake
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quote:
Originally posted by iceman
any suggestions to who i should use then?


i'd do abit of research and ring a few local companies then see if there's any reviews online for them. The national companies tend to be very expensive and not THAT good. the B&Q and Wickes plastics arent very good quality and have a dated look about them. Whenever a salesman comes round ask them what materials are going into the base. there should be a good sub-base, damp proof membrane, celetex/jabalite floor insulation, between 75 and 100mm concrete then a cavity wall. heard about some cases where they dont build a cavity wall so its just a single skin of brickwork, and practically building the conservatory up off the existing patio. find out how deep they dig out down for the footings aswell. theres no point spending 10k on a conservatory if its going to sink after a couple of years
AK
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22nd Aug 09 at 09:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whet.....

just get a local builder to lay the founds, and the base.

Then find a joiner to fit the damn thing....

Looked into wood?
Bonney
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Right, First of all, Stay away from the larger companys (Safestyle, Everest, Anglican etc) as the materials they use are pretty brittle. I know this as the company i work for make the specialised bespoke frames for them.

Secondly, Find a local one man band firm. These tend to take more pride in their work and can give you a better deal. Make sure they are FENSA registered. Also if they are registered by the GGF (Glass and glazing federation) then you know that there going to do a decent job.

The best profiles we find are VEKA and REHAU. These arent as brittle and are a pretty strong frame anyway even without the steel reinforcing in them. So try to find a company that uses these.

These days the wooden ones are usually slightly more expensive as the price of the plastic materials are so cheap.

Heres a local company to me that uses a VEKA profile.

JWS Windows

Hope this has helped you a bit, If you want to know anything else let us know!
Colin
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Parents got a CR Smith one a few years back for about 6-7k.

If the salesman said 19k to me then straight away dropped to 14k I think i'd slap him for trying to rip me off.

When these folk come round, just say to them: 'ok I know how it works, im not interested in getting a daft price then you keep coming back to me, you give me your best price and I'll decide in a week who's getting the work'!!
whitter45
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24th Aug 09 at 14:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

just had one bulit

5m by 4m with gable front
over 3 cubic meters of concrete for base

Removed soil pipe and relocated
wiring
plastering
relocation of boiler flue
brick lights

cost 8.5k

We had one guy who started at 19k and dropped to 13k within 10 minutes

he was asked toleave and not come back

If you go with big companies who have over heads and wanker sales guys then you pay for all that

Local guys with good refernces will always do a good job as they cant afford not too

and you will get better after service

will try and get a pic for you

[Edited on 24-08-2009 by whitter45]

 
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