lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Could be a C16XE inlet, ECU and loom, just running on an X16XEL block?
They are interchangable and as far as I'm aware all 3 blocks were identical
That is what I'm assuming has happened, the X16XEL i bought has the C16XE inlet and AFM don't know what the C16XE ECU looks like but this one is fucking huge and silver, Plastic cover on the rocker cover says ecotec
|
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
|
Ignore the plastic cover, thats so easily interchangable that its not worth reading it. I have 3 of them, all saying different things 
|
lil_g
Member
Registered: 29th Oct 06
User status: Offline
|
Later blocks are meant to be better than earlier ones anyway 
Edit: because there were a few problems with some of the C16XE ones when they were first released IIRC.
I think you've got the best of both worlds there mate
[Edited on 15-03-2009 by lil_g]
|
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
|
ahh I didn't read gregg's post - yea, it seems that we agree, that is what has probably happened.
As he says, the heads and bottom ends are interchangable.
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
It could be a X16XEL bottom end with the C16XE top but i paid £250 for a C16XE as i have said, sorry if im being repetitive but im pretty pissed off, i didn't pay good money for a mongrel engine
|
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
|
You have a better engine anyway.
As far as I'm aware, the bottom ends are identical, so by you having a later bottom end, it 'should' be in better condition than the original C16XE bolck.
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Later blocks are meant to be better than earlier ones anyway
Edit: because there were a few problems with some of the C16XE ones when they were first released IIRC.
I think you've got the best of both worlds there mate
[Edited on 15-03-2009 by lil_g]
So your saying, the x16xel bottom end with the c16xe head is a good combo? but will this still have the same power as a standard c16xe engine or will it be lacking some? not that the power matters all that much but i wanted a c16xe.
|
lil_g
Member
Registered: 29th Oct 06
User status: Offline
|
Yes, the power will be the same.
Early C16XE engine suffered from undersized pistons and many had to be recalled by vauxhall. The parts that caused the BHP differences were the head and most importantly the inlet.
|
SeanXE
Member
Registered: 17th Jan 09
Location: Luton
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Yes, the power will be the same.
Early C16XE engine suffered from undersized pistons and many had to be recalled by vauxhall. The parts that caused the BHP differences were the head and most importantly the inlet.
Totally off topic but who did your engine conversion gregg?
|
tom_simes
Show Staff
Organiser: South Wales
Premium Member
Registered: 12th Jan 05
Location: Undy, Newport Drives: Skoda Octavia vRS estate
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
The parts that caused the BHP differences were the head and most importantly the inlet.
And all the EGR and SAI shit they fitted to meet emissions
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
So now i just have to see if the afm go's on if it does not, i aint got a c16xe head? any other things i can look for, i aint good with engines, just a new hobby to me.
|
lil_g
Member
Registered: 29th Oct 06
User status: Offline
|
Lee Mitchell, he lives in Kent mate. He's done many many XE conversions! 
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by S7M XE
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Yes, the power will be the same.
Early C16XE engine suffered from undersized pistons and many had to be recalled by vauxhall. The parts that caused the BHP differences were the head and most importantly the inlet.
Totally off topic but who did your engine conversion gregg?
 start your own thread
|
SeanXE
Member
Registered: 17th Jan 09
Location: Luton
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Lee Mitchell, he lives in Kent mate. He's done many many XE conversions!
Sorry lost boy lol
|
lil_g
Member
Registered: 29th Oct 06
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by tom_simes
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
The parts that caused the BHP differences were the head and most importantly the inlet.
And all the EGR and SAI shit they fitted to meet emissions
true
All the heads are interchangable so the inlet will still go on. I think the C16XE head had slightly larger ports, but there's only 3BHP difference between a C16 and X16 including the emissions rubbish 
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
quote:
Originally posted by S7M XE
quote:
Originally posted by lil_g
Lee Mitchell, he lives in Kent mate. He's done many many XE conversions!
Sorry lost boy lol
It's all good xxx
So back on topic for one last question, what other give aways are there that the head may not be from a c16xe that i can find?
Answer that then use this thread for what ya want
|
lil_g
Member
Registered: 29th Oct 06
User status: Offline
|
Vauxhall has tweaked the cylinder head design several times over the past 13 years. The early C16XE head (casting number: 90472726) is a cracker as it uses much larger ports, whereas the later X14XE and X16XE use smaller and different shaped ports that peg the power back. The very latest head casting (number: 90400187) uses triangular inlet ports, which work a lot better, gaining up to 12bp.
Not sure where the casting mark is though sorry 
|
lostboy
Banned
Registered: 29th Jan 09
Location: Durham
User status: Offline
|
Hmmmm will get back to this with pics as soon as i go over and look at it again. ty peoples
|
