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DSON
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10th Feb 03 at 17:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

how do you get your arches smooth in what do you use to do this.

i dont want it to crack.
anz
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10th Feb 03 at 17:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

either sand the bobbles off with sand paper
or use high build primer, with little or no thinners to keep it thick, give it about 3 coats.. until its smoothed over the bobbles, then sand it back so its smoooov then paint it.

job done,
DSON
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10th Feb 03 at 18:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no not like that sorry i didnt make the question clear enough,
i want them smoothin into the car?
STEvieXE
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10th Feb 03 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

No point of even asking m8, no one knows or no one will bother helping u. I am experimenting at home at the minute with a pattern wing using f/glass, it is nearly finished so i will put it on and then see how it lasts.
anz
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quote:
Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
No point of even asking m8, no one knows or no one will bother helping u. I am experimenting at home at the minute with a pattern wing using f/glass, it is nearly finished so i will put it on and then see how it lasts.


i bothered to try and help didnt i?
Drew
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10th Feb 03 at 18:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by STEvieN.I.
No point of even asking m8, no one knows or no one will bother helping u. I am experimenting at home at the minute with a pattern wing using f/glass, it is nearly finished so i will put it on and then see how it lasts.


well i would help ya and tell ya how to smooth the arches into the car like this.....




but i'll not bother now
STEvieXE
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10th Feb 03 at 19:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok guys sorry bout that just a bit touchy on that one. no offence taken i hope
STEvieXE
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10th Feb 03 at 19:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

oh and thanks 4 the help Drew
craigbarnley
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10th Feb 03 at 20:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah my mate had his whole combat 2 kit smothed in cost him over a grand to get it fitted alone then the spray job . and guess what 5 months later its all crack. do not mould anything that has stress on it wheel arches especially. the front looks completely fucked from him going slightly fast round corners . just a word of advice do you want me to put some pics up
Kris TD
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10th Feb 03 at 21:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

u do it using fibreglass filler then smooth over with body filler
Ant
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10th Feb 03 at 21:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i did that on a mini i had a few years ago kike ppl have said it WILL just crack in time
DSON
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10th Feb 03 at 21:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yes please put some pics up please of the cracks
Kris TD
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10th Feb 03 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

there is a standard gsi in my town which all its had done is skirts and archs blended in, and its cracked, thats on 14's so it wasnt from the rims rubbing.
Westwood
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11th Feb 03 at 08:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

The biggest problem you will face is you are using 3 different material compounds which all swell and flex at different rates depending on heat.

i.e metal, Fiberglass and plastic.

in extreme cases this is like trying to bond together gas and a solid object.

It can be done but will crack.

The best way I cud suggest to do this would be to get second hand or pattern front wing and rear qtrs, blend them in using fiberglass, then make a fiberglass mould from them. then pull out fiberglass wings from the mould. Obviously this would be particularly good on the rear of the car, but would work well on the front wings... make the car lighter too, but possibly less safe in an accident?
corsa_lover
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11th Feb 03 at 19:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by WestwoodThe best way I cud suggest to do this would be to get second hand or pattern front wing and rear qtrs, blend them in using fiberglass, then make a fiberglass mould from them. then pull out fiberglass wings from the mould. Obviously this would be particularly good on the rear of the car, but would work well on the front wings... make the car lighter too, but possibly less safe in an accident?


Im not quite sure wot u mean? I think ur suggesting driving around with a panel soley made of fibreglass? Dont get me wrong im not dissin the idea but it sounds dodgy to me has anyone tried this? Fibreglass can be prone to cracks at the best of times so id presume in this case itd be no different. It is inventive though.

BTW drew if thats ur car is it possible u could send me a couple more pix? I keep seein different bits of your car all over this site and it looks the mutts nuts
wezjax
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11th Feb 03 at 19:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats claire richardsons car.

why not just take a fibreglass mould of a standard plastic arch? makes alot more sense to me.
Drew
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11th Feb 03 at 21:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i already told Anz that it was claires car

i aint claimed its mine

was taking the nite before trax last year if ya wanna know precisly
corsa_lover
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11th Feb 03 at 22:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok sorry
STEvieXE
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I agree with wezjax. that was my 1st idea but then couldnt be arsed having to mould the arch coz of the hassle. thought it would be better to match just steel to f/glass instead of steel f/glass and plastic. nearly finished my experiment with the arch. hopefully finished in a week. will get it on and keep us posted.
STEvieXE
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14th Feb 03 at 20:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

another thing is i used to work in a place that built hearses and there f/glass bodies were blended to car. using f/glass matt from behind and then fibre fill and filler from front. never any came back cracked and the oldest i seen was about 7 years old. but then again they were hearses and only go at 20mph. BUT they r driven normally when not in funerals ( ie when going to and from funerals etc) so who knows??????? Just wanted to share that with u all!!!
Corsa Lad 69
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14th Feb 03 at 20:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i seen a old boy lit up a hearse in ballymoney...big merc...backend stepped out minorly...no passengers tho..

 
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