DaveyLC
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You're going to need to extend that.. ALOT.
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Mobby
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where did you cut yours, i couldnt get any closer the rest went in the car. its where it joins like this to the car loom T
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DaveyLC
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I took near enough the whole lot.. And I seperated out the ECU (body side) loom from the rest of it.. I also move the fuel pump relay further away from the ECU so it was up in the bulk head (but thats not really important)..
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Just get on the bay and order loads of different colour cables, and make a nice excel spreadsheet 
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
The power delivery, torque curve etc. is TOTALLY different to the XE and is much better suited to the Corsa.. You really got to have a drive to under-stand.
yeah i think i would like to know about it tbh. whats the weight saving over an xe? 40kg's maybe?
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DaveyLC
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AES might have all the colours in stock..
This is why I said get AS MUCH of the loom as possible 
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
The power delivery, torque curve etc. is TOTALLY different to the XE and is much better suited to the Corsa.. You really got to have a drive to under-stand.
yeah i think i would like to know about it tbh. whats the weight saving over an xe? 40kg's maybe?
Yeah something like 46kg on the engine and another 12kg on the gearbox.
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Mobby
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I took near enough the whole lot.. And I seperated out the ECU (body side) loom from the rest of it.. I also move the fuel pump relay further away from the ECU so it was up in the bulk head (but thats not really important)..
shit. well it was the first time i had ever seen a loom so at least i came back with the loom lol
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
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Originally posted by Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
The power delivery, torque curve etc. is TOTALLY different to the XE and is much better suited to the Corsa.. You really got to have a drive to under-stand.
yeah i think i would like to know about it tbh. whats the weight saving over an xe? 40kg's maybe?
Yeah something like 46kg on the engine and another 12kg on the gearbox.
if you base it purely on power to weight there is a big difference. considering the 1800 still is about 10lb/ft down the xe's 145 ish as std. maybe your engine has less miles, maybe the conversion was done better than most cobbled together xe's.
your right though, its all about feeling the difference as could sit here for a fair bit using maths and get nowhere. all im thinking is the cost of doing such an engine conversion compared to an xe which has more torque and power already. its an interesting one the 1800 16v, i will give you that.
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DaveyLC
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The XE might be up on power but it all depends on where that peak power is reached in the rev-range, where the peak torque is, how the gearing is effects that and in turn that is all effected by the weight of the car and how much traction it has etc. etc.
People spend too much time looking at the peak figures.
The torque delivery from the XE1 is almost from idle which means you arent reving the tits off it and dumping the clutch to get up into the peak torque rev-band and when it comes to a standing start its ALL ABOUT the torque BHP just comes into play when you are trying to over-come drag.
Theres also 'REAL WORLD' A to B performance, clearly having a substantially lighter engine means a better weight distribution which equates to better handling and thus more speed in the corners..
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by DaveyLC]
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by DaveyLC]
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Mobby
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it costs less
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Nic Barnes
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quote:
Originally posted by DaveyLC
The XE might be up on power but it all depends on where that peak power is reached in the rev-range, where the peak torque is, how the gearing is effects that and in turn that is all effected by the weight of the car and how much traction it has etc. etc.
People spend too much time looking at the peak figures.
Theres also 'REAL WORLD' A to B performance, clearly having a substantially lighter engine means a better weight distribution which equates to better handling.
have you got the figures on the 1800 16v you used out of interest?
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DaveyLC
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I'll have to dig out my dyno sheet the torque curve is more of a horizontal line 
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by DaveyLC]
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Nic Barnes
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Originally posted by DaveyLC
I'll have to dig out my dyno sheet the torque curve is more of a horizontal line
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by DaveyLC]
nice one, i find this very interesting actually. its an engine id never really consider before.
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jacko198
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How much did it cost you mobby if you dont mind me asking?
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barter
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all this talk about better than xe's etc.i wouldnt no as i havernt had a 1.8.xe boy me but anyone got a 1.8 up for a lil rip at pv?
mobby?
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by barter]
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swill_omnibus
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Im planning this conversion in march time, good luck with it m8 keep us posted
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Mobby
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300 jacko
and barter......WHAT???
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jacko198
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Originally posted by mobby
300 jacko
and barter......WHAT???
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Mobby
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thats for everything, cat ecu immo ring chip, everything i needed including a f17 box wich i have for sale 
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DaveyLC
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Originally posted by mobby
thats for everything, cat ecu immo ring chip, everything i needed including a f17 box wich i have for sale
Has the F17 box got a mechanical speedo drive?
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Ojc
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Originally posted by barter
all this talk about better than xe's etc.i wouldnt no as i havernt had a 1.8.xe boy me but anyone got a 1.8 up for a lil rip at pv?
mobby?
[Edited on 07-01-2009 by barter]
WTF 
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Mobby
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its from a vectra??
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Fro
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Originally posted by mobby
thats for everything, cat ecu immo ring chip, everything i needed including a f17 box wich i have for sale
If you're going to tune it wouldnt it be best to keep the box?
And barter is offering any 1.8 owners a race
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Mobby
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yeh true.... fuck now i dont know what to do!
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