Mobby
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right im planning on fitting a corsa C 1.8 sri engine into my B, but im planning on using the standard 1.2 gearbox to save money and time. but can i use anouther gearbox from say the c14/16xe or will this be just as hard as fitting the 1.8 gearbox? can anyone tell me the pros and cons of doing this?? and will it only be fast like say up to 100??
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by mobby]
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tom_simes
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Do you know how to wire it in?
Things like the Z18XE has a fly by wire throttle, not a cable.
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Torsa g
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dont do it moe just put the valver in it, or even put a nova gsi lump in it, we need to have a chat about this lol
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Jambo
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why would you do that?
Xe would be less effort for similar gains
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pow
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Lol, pedal box needs changing and to run properly using the B electrics needs standalone management with a VSS to run the speedo.
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Mobby
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lol im really thinking about it, low milage engine compared to a xe, better mpg, cheaper the list goes on, plus i only work two days a week totalling so i really dont think i can afford a xe
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Lol, pedal box needs changing and to run properly using the B electrics needs standalone management with a VSS to run the speedo.
ill be using the standard gearbox? and it will be fitted and wired in by someone else who says he can do it and is doing one atm
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pow
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You need a longer gearbox than the 1.2 one I shoudl think.
Warren been buttering you up?
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
You need a longer gearbox than the 1.2 one I shoudl think.
Warren been buttering you up?
i want warren to do it, i contacted him about it. theres a ka round here with a 150bhp mondeo engine on a 1.3 gearbox, he seems ok. and thats what im saying can i use a gearbox off the 1.4 or 1.6's
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Scotty C
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A 1.2 gearbox wont last 5 minutes.
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Mobby
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can i use anouther gearbox from a b instead of the 1.2?
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tom_simes
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I all depends what was on the 1.2 tbh - if it was an F13 or F15 as I imagine, I don't see it being a problem, but I don't know for definite if the bellhousing is the same between the boxes so I don't know if it physically will fit on.
What gearbox is Warren using?
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Cossie
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you can use an f17 or f15 CR gearbox !
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Mobby
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Well im sure warrens sure that it will fit, id just rather not use the 1.2 id be happy with a f17 or something like that.
THANKS ALOT FOR THE REPLYS YOU HAVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL
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Cossie
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if i am not mistake 1.8 corsa c engines use f17 gearbox, my late corsa b has f17cr gearbox too
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Mobby
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if i am not mistake 1.8 corsa c engines use f17 gearbox, my late corsa b has f17cr gearbox too
are they the same though???? i knoe fitting the original gearbox from the 1.8 will cost more and take more time, all i want to know is what gearbox can i use that will cost the same and take the same amount as time if he were to use my 1.2 gearbox
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pow
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Yes but surely using a 1.2 gearbox wll not be suited to the 1.8 engine, making it useless?
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Torsa g
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mo this conversion is useless, ur gona have the weight of a 2 litre block and the power of a 1.6, so it wont handle that well like the 2litres and it wont go as quick hence the reason people dont really use these engines, tbh for wat you want mo i would 1.6 8v it for reliability and shove some bike carbs on it for ur power
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by Torsa g]
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Torsa g
mo this conversion is useless, ur gona have the weight of a 2 litre block and the power of a 1.6, so it wont handle that well like the 2litres and it wont go as quick hence the reason people dont really use these engines, tbh for wat you want mo i would 1.6 8v it for reliability and shove some bike carbs on it for ur power
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by Torsa g]
its a small block? what will be the weight difference?? i really cant afford a c20xe tom i just know it, plus realiability is a issue and petrol and conversion costs. for some reason i want a 16v i dont know if its the fact that they are smoother and have peak bhp higher up in the rev range.
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Mobby
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quote:
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Yes but surely using a 1.2 gearbox wll not be suited to the 1.8 engine, making it useless?
what if i use a f15? will it fit the exact same as a 1.2 gearbox?
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Torsa g
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i thought they were a big block engine
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Mobby
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quote:
Originally posted by Torsa g
i thought they were a big block engine
noo lol, thats one of the main reasons i want it, because its the small block engine.
1.6:
Performance
Engine Size 1598 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 9.5 s
Power Output 104 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 148 Nm 109 lb-ft
Top Speed 119 mph
1.8:
Engine Size 1796 cc
Cylinders 4
0-60 mph 8.0 s
Power Output 123 bhp
Valves 16
Torque 165 Nm 121 lb-ft
Top Speed 126 mph
and imo for the price im paying i would pay roughly the same for a 1.6
[Edited on 01-10-2008 by mobby]
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Cossie
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f17 are all the same difference is that new corsa c use haudralic clutch and that can be easily remove to a normal clutch ones or use a 17cr/15cr gearbox direct from a B
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tom_simes
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Its a smallblock, and yes, the F15 will fit.
Why not discuss all this with Warren? Seeing as he is fitting it for you, I think it would be much easier to talk to him about costs etc.
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Mobby
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thanks cossie you have been a great help!
i think ill use either a 17cr or a 15cr from a b.
once agains thanks alot to everyone this means alot to me.
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