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Author PROBLEMS STARTING THE NEW ENGINE
eastend
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11th Nov 07 at 23:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
just finished putting the x16xe in my car instead of my x14xe, went to start and i ahve a flashing eml, and the car turning over but not making any effort to start.

we changed the ecu but have changed the transponder?

any ideas

cheers
ainsley_brader
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11th Nov 07 at 23:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
flashing eml is immobiliser

you need to change transponder and chip or run it on the x14 ecu
Mike
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11th Nov 07 at 23:55   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
eml flashing is immobiliser iirc, you'll need the transponder, and black ring that sits round the ignition barrel, from the car the ecu come from
eastend
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could it be the standard alarm/immobiliser as we cut a yellow wire for the standard system
eastend
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we have changed the black ring that sits round the ignition barrel and plugged it in,

isnt that the transponder?
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It could be but you will still need to change the chip in the key and the black ring around the barrel!
eastend
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ok . i thinks its that we dont have the chip from the key, thanks for help will get it tomoro
ainsley_brader
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there is also a little chip in the key!
csweatherston
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sod changing the transponder chip n ring...
take the chip out and tape it to the top (12o'clock) on the ring.
sorted
eastend
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12th Nov 07 at 00:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
sorted immobiliser prob, but we now have no spark, will sort it tomorrow sugesstions?
Vaux Lad
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12th Nov 07 at 00:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
No spark on any cylinder?
Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by csweatherston
sod changing the transponder chip n ring...
take the chip out and tape it to the top (12o'clock) on the ring.
sorted


Still needs to be the right chip and ring for the ECU, and taping it together means someone can drive off with the car without the key easier than they can if the chip is in the key.
csweatherston
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last one i did, i changed the ecu and taped the chip to the original ring...

didnt need the new ring.


but, yes theres a security issue
Vaux Lad
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12th Nov 07 at 18:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
The ring is coded, so afaik it wont work with the original ring, because it only looks for a specific chip frequency code

 
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