islandofshame
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hey,
so am driving into glasgow to go c spidy3 this mornin...
comin up towards the turn off for junction 15, sittin bout 3.5k revs at 65mph n the revs suddenly drop to 3k then back to 3.5k - n the car kinda jumped...thot to maself, thats strange, neva done that before...
anyways. came off the motorway and stops at the first set of light and the engine just went off and wouldn't start again 
the oil light, battery light and yellow emission light came on...turned off the ignition n got the car to the side of the road...sat there for 2 hours waiting for ma pal to get the car back home and when he arrived the bastard started first time, eventhough i had tried it several times before...ragin
but then when we was puttin it on the back of the truck it cut out again at the top...
any ideas?
cheers
- islandofshame 
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taty
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have you tried the paperclip test
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islandofshame
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i've heard it mentioned so often but what does this actually involve and how does it help?
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GlennXXX
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check all your major earth cables on my old nissan sunny 1 of the earths came loose and was doin similar to tha was cuttin out resting the cd player setting then it would b fine this is just a thought as the symtoms seam simmilar
[Edited on 07-05-2007 by GlennXXX]
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taty
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http://www.topbuzz.co.uk/info/fault_codes/fault_codes.htm
go to here it tell you how to do it
it helps by reading your ecu to tell you what fault codes have been read
so if any are stored it will tell you what is wrong
the same thing happened to my car it turned out to be the crank shaft sensor
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islandofshame
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nice1 taty, cheers...
only think is it doesnt mention in the chart which fueling system a W reg 1.0 12v corsa b has? anyone know off the top of their head?
cheers again
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islandofshame
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from what i've been readin its gona be a 16 pin aldl plug on the car and pins 5 and 6 need to be bridged, the led next to the socket will then flash in a sequence which will identify the problem?
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taty
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by led do you mean the orange light in the dash
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islandofshame
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lol, well originally i assumed that was the light that would be flashing etc. but i read somewhere else on here that there is a orange led that flashes next to where you bridge the pins? guessin someone was just ripping the piss?
where bouts will the aldl plug be located? next to the fuse box at the drivers side inside the car?
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taty
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yes just under the cover left hand side of the fuse box
never heard of an led next to it though but iv got a 1.2 8v so it might be different on yours
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islandofshame
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nice1, will give it a go 2moro...
been told that this could more than likely this problem could be down to the crank sensor being fault? does that sound bout rite?
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gsirick
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quote:
Originally posted by islandofshame
i've heard it mentioned so often but what does this actually involve and how does it help?
heres a list of the fault codes for the corsa gsiGM-Multec ECU Fault Codes
This fault code chart shows the GM-Multec fault codes for the following systems:- SPi, MPi, CFi, M and S.
GM-Multec Code Chart:
Code: Item: Fault:
12 Initiation of diagnosis. n/a
13 Oxygen sensor No change in voltage/open circuit.
14 Coolant Temperature Sensor (CTS) Low voltage
15 Coolant Temperature Sensor (CTS) High voltage
16 Knock signal circuit n/a
18 Knock control processor n/a
19 Crank Angle Sensor (CAS) Incorrect RPM signal
21 Throttle Potentiometer Sensor (TPS) High voltage
22 Throttle Potentiometer Sensor (TPS) Low voltage
24 Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) No speed signal or low voltage
25 Injector valve Low voltage
28 Fuel pump relay contacts Contact problem
29 Fuel pump relay Low voltage
32 Fuel pump relay High voltage
33 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor High voltage
34 Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor Low voltage
35 Idle stepper motor Poor or no idle speed control
41 Amplifier control signal, cylinders 2 and 3 (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) High voltage
42 Amplifier control signal, cylinders 1 and 4 (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) High voltage
43 Primary ignition (distributor systems) High voltage
44 Oxygen sensor Air/Fuel mixture too lean (weak)
45 Oxygen sensor Air/Fuel mixture too rich
46 Amplifier (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) control signal (A+B) High voltage
47 Linear exhaust gas re-circulation (EGR) position n/a
49 Battery supply to Engine Control Unit (ECU) High voltage (greater than 17 volts)
51 Engine Control Unit (ECU) Defective ECU (disconnect and reconnect (ECU), then recheck for fault codes). Memory failure
52 Secondary air pump relay Low voltage
53 Secondary air pump relay High voltage
54 Idle Carbon Monoxide (CO) potentiometer n/a
55 Engine Control Unit (ECU) fault Renew Engine Control Unit (ECU)
56 Air control soleniod Low voltage
57 Air control soleniod High voltage
61 Fuel tank vent valve (FTVV) Low voltage
62 Fuel tank vent valve (FTVV) High voltage
63 Amplifier control signal, cylinders 2 and 3 (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) Low voltage
64 Amplifier control signal, cylinders 1 and 4 (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) Low voltage
65 Primary ignition (distributor systems) Low voltage
66 Throttle position sensor (TPS) Hose broken
67 Air Flow Sensor (AFS), hot wire meter (air mass meter) Signal is outside normal operation parameters (out of range)
68 Air Flow Sensor (AFS), hot wire meter (air mass meter) Faulty air mass meter signal, incorrect frequency
69 Air Temperature Sensor (ATS) (MPi only) Low voltage
71 Air Temperature Sensor (ATS) (MPi only) High voltage
72 Amplifier (Direct Ignition System (DIS)) control signal (A+B) Lead interruption, open circuit
75 Torque control (Automatic Transmission (AT) only) Low voltage
76 Torque control (Automatic Transmission (AT) only) Continuous
81 Injector valve High voltage
83 Immobiliser No or wrong code
84 Immobiliser No signal
85 Immobiliser Wrong signal
87 Air conditioning cut-off relay Low voltage
88 Air conditioning cut-off relay High voltage
92 Camshaft sensor Faulty hall effect sensor or circuit
93 Quad drive module (in ECU) n/a
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brummiesxi
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this has been happening on mine too, was crankshaft sensor, £36 quid from vaux and a 10 min job.
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gsirick
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u need to put the paper clip into terminals a@b on ur diagnostic plug (found in ur fuse box) then turn your ignition on and the codes will flash on your dash (eml will give the flashes) the first code is 12 which is telling u that there is a diagnostic tune happening then the codes will flash as follows:
the firsat flash indicates the first no example 1 flash then a pause will be no 1.
then the second flash example two flashes then a pause will be 2, so the code is 12. remember 12 is letting u no ur doing a diagnostic tune and it will cum up 3 times then if any fault codes r found they will cum up 3 times aswell so make sure u have a pen handy to jot the codes down.
hope this helps
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taty
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quote:
Originally posted by islandofshame
nice1, will give it a go 2moro...
been told that this could more than likely this problem could be down to the crank sensor being fault? does that sound bout rite?
yea that is what was wrong with mine i Had the same problems engine just cutting out for no reason at all then not starting up again
but i just took out the sensor and cleaned it and everything has been working fine since then
was you a member of corsa-b.co.uk because I'm sure i recognise your name from somewhere
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islandofshame
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nice1, cheers - gona gt it sorted 2moz hopefully - mechanic seems to think its a fault pump relay thats faulty tho so i duno...
yup, im a member of corsa-b.co.uk aswel, kinda moved on2 here more coz the site moved n kept goin down...  altho i noticed tonight that the original domain name is back and the site seems to be alive and kicking again 
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islandofshame
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hey, so got the car back to day with two of the fuel pump relays replaced - stil no difference - managed to get it home but then it wouldn't start after that...
am now either gona perform the paperclip test or get a diagnostics test done at a garage...the aldl plug i have is definately a 16pin...only problem is that i dont have a number 6 pin i only have number 5...how am i meant to bridge it?
also, jst back in from the car there and had it started 5 times in a row, what the heck is goin on?
apparently it aint the crank shaft sensor coz its sparkin
finally, now that i have the car back the first setting on my wipers aint workin, how can i fix this?
cheers
- islandofshame
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islandofshame
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ttt
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islandofshame
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anyone?
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Ben G
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as said, same thing happened to mine but i continued to drive it after getting it to start back up. turns out my temperature sensor had broke and blew my head gasket 
it's more than likely the crankshaft sensor.
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deano87
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I haven't read the whole thread so don't know if this has been mentioned, but, I'm 95% sure you can't do a paperclip test on a 12v!
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islandofshame
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yup, 100% no chance on the paperclip test, takin it down to garage 2moro to get diagnostics checked...what is a reasonable price to pay to get this done?
also, my first setting on my window wipers aint workin anymore - what could be the reason behind that?
[Edited on 08-05-2007 by islandofshame]
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deano87
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Think Vauxhall charge £20 or £40, can't remember. Vauxhall will be most expensive, but some 'sole trader' garages have Tech2 machines which will be cheaper.
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islandofshame
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didnt realise vaux was as cheap as that...sure someone told me i'd be looking at 100 quid to get the diagnostics done by vaux
any idea on the wiper situation?
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deano87
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Wiper situation? No, haven't read the thread, sorry.
Vauxhall definitely shouldn't charge £100. That's over 1 hours labour I reckon. Definitely £20 or £40.
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