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30th Apr 07 at 15:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This car is an absolute nightmare, a non sellable money pit

Its always held back sometimes when you go to pull off (all the way off the clutch and just hovers at the same revs for a second, then pulls away fine), rarely before and thought nothing of it. Recently, its started doing it randomly when accelorating.

Then, today, overtaking a truck on the A30, i out me foot down in 4th (60ish, 3.5-4k rpm) and not much happened, it held back, and for a breif minute, the ECU light came on. Then, it seemed to sort itself, and it moved forwards again.

I need to know whats wrong, its annoying me, its due an MOT and ive had enough of the car.

Its a Corsa B with an X12XE, 53k, just had a service, exhaust (cat back) and front disk/pad change - if it makes any difference.

Any help?

TIA
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Try the paperclip test to find out why the light keeps coming on. The one in my car keeps coming on too but so far its not affected anything.
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AFM

but check fault codes first
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I cant paperclip test, its OBD2

AFM - Air flow meter? Yus?

How much to get the part/get that replaced?
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90543282
£225+VAT from vauxhall

but ebay is cheaper
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Mine does the whole hesitation thing too - fooking annoying. No EML though.

More money
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30th Apr 07 at 16:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

OMG i dont have that sort of money

Is it easy to fit?

EDIT - can I just have a picture to confirm where i think it is in the bay?

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by pow]
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http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=322369
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usually AFM, maybe EGR i think sometimes too ?
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GOD... This seems like its the problem!

Is there a quick guide to replacing it yourself?

EGR?

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by pow]
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
GOD... This seems like its the problem!

Is there a quick guide to replacing it yourself?

EGR?

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by pow]

Thanks to Haynes
EGR valve - A valve used to introduce exhaust gases into the intake air stream. (Exhaust Gas Recirculation)

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by deano87]
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these engines are notorious for 3 things:

egr valve
afm
tps
icv

ok, 4 things. could be any of them. and also lots more.... get it on a diagnostics machine
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The EML has never come on since I've owned it and if the AFM is most common for this, I'd say it's that that is on its way it.

Won't know until I try, and saves wasting over £200 that Vaux would charge.

EDIT: On a 12v btw.

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by deano87]
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It cost me £150 for a AFM plus fitting at a local garage. Mines only 4 months old and I still get that bloody light coming on every now and then.

You're lucky deano!
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lol fingers crossed - never had EML which is confusing.

Sorry pow for stealing your thread
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Could be the Lamba sensor as to why mine comes on since that ain't been replaced in the 4 years we've had the car but I seriously need new tyres so they'll come 1st and god knows when I'll be able to afford them

Reset the ECU and its still coming on

[Edited on 30-04-2007 by Necromancer]
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Been out again in it tonight, and its still happening, seems to be when i accelorate to higher speeds (ie 60+) in hugher gears (4th and 5th). The light only comes on for a fewseconds (5 or 6 at the most) at a time,enough to store a fault?
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Get Matty G in here


Corsa 2.0 16v Vegas - Sold
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quote:
Originally posted by pow
Been out again in it tonight, and its still happening, seems to be when i accelorate to higher speeds (ie 60+) in hugher gears (4th and 5th). The light only comes on for a fewseconds (5 or 6 at the most) at a time,enough to store a fault?


Mine did exactly the same, AFM all day long
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Mine doesn't do it at such high speeds, more when I pull off after idling for a while.

Hopefully it'll be as easy as the AFM.
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Excelent, wil hopefully have had a light long enough to get a fault code out of the ECU from a matey who has an ECU reader me'jobbie!

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POW... ive got an engine thats now out of a car because of the problems you described.

Can you do something for me.... unplug your Lambda sensor on the exhaust manifold... and take the car out for a drive and tell me if it happens?? (The ECU light will be on by the way)
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And... to give you an idea for part prices...

AFM - £26.99 posted http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vauxhall-corsa-air-flow-meter-0280217123-0280-217-123_W0QQitemZ190106444176QQihZ009QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Coolant sensor - £10 posted from Autovaux

Lambda - £40 - 60

EGR valve £80


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I can yeh, if i knew where it was !

A picture would be ideal .

I need to know if my EML light has been on long enough to store a fault as well
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There will be one sensor in this area...



Follow the cable from it to the 4/5 pin plug ( its quite large)



And from experience... there would be no fault code stored at all mate. I had mine read on Tech2 after mine did the same as yours...... and there was nothing.

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