Steve
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complaints fron non payers?
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Robin
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I know exactly what you're gonna say when Ian says yes to that Steve 
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James
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Originally posted by Robin
I know exactly what you're gonna say when Ian says yes to that Steve
Me too, in fact, I almost said it myself.
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Matt H
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Originally posted by Steve
maybe if you charge for shows people like sxi16vjoe wont show and start fights
Maybe if you charge entry to nightclub people wont start fights?
Maybe the same with football matches?
No?
Joe did pay to get in, he had a ticket same as everyone else who was there. Quit with the useless comments
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Steve
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enlighten me?
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Matt H
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
maybe if you charge for shows people like sxi16vjoe wont show and start fights
Maybe if you charge entry to nightclub people wont start fights?
Maybe the same with football matches?
No?
Joe did pay to get in, he had a ticket same as everyone else who was there. Quit with the useless comments
stfu matt, its a perfectly valid point, if you are accepting club only members then youl only get enthusiasts there not people causing trouble you retard
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Eck
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Tbh I think paying for shows is a good idea. If you were dedicated enough to your club, or wanted to show that badly. I'm pretty sure you could cough out a few quid.
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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The fights comment is on par with saying restrict sales to prems so there will be no fraud.
They're issues in themselves, which need addressing directly, not via buying yourself out of policy.
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Matt H
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
stfu matt, its a perfectly valid point, if you are accepting club only members then youl only get enthusiasts there not people causing trouble you retard
How exactly was it valid?
Joe paid to get in, he bought a normal ticket available on the gate
You said maybe if we charged things like this wouldn't happen
But even if we did, how would this have prevented anything? He DID pay
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
stfu matt, its a perfectly valid point, if you are accepting club only members then youl only get enthusiasts there not people causing trouble you retard
He came as a passenger! Are we asking for prem off all passengers?!
Who is going to check this?!
I would rather we test if they're capable of acting like an adult - thats a fairer indication of whether they're going to be a nob or not.
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Steve
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yes thats all very well, i dont appreciate someone telling me to quit my useless comments, wen apart from two posts earlier in the thread i have been trying to come up with a solution
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Steve
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passengers would have to be allowed as its the car show space you are buying is it not?
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Ian
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Indeed - which was driven by a prem, whose passenger had a fight.
Prem-only ticket sales would make no difference whatsoever to that situation.
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Matt H
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You are buying a place on the stand & we have rules
If anyone doesn't adhere to the rules then action will be taken
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mike16v
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Right just spent 10 mins reading the post so thought id give my input
From the post so far ive gotta say i agree with steve and jr
The best option in my opinion is to add show attendance to the list is attributes gained from becoming premium member. id say this is going to increase the number of prem members and wont affect the numbers attending shows too drastically.
From personal experience id say people will be willing to pay out to show with the club. I paid £20 (i think) to join migclub this year, purely so i could show with them at pvs, billing and trax. 3 shows for £20 and im glad i did it. nearly twice as much as prem membership here but i still think i got a good deal.
so in my opinion just add it onto prem benefits and keep the member setup as it is. maybe consider the name change from premium member to club member or similar
mike
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Ian
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
my useless comments
You post useless comments - oh the slander 
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Steve
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Indeed - which was driven by a prem, whose passenger had a fight.
Prem-only ticket sales would make no difference whatsoever to that situation.
nope this scenario would be out of your control, some element of deterrent could be added in that if any club member is involved in, or brings anyone involved in trouble there membership is revoked
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SabasSRi
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About the address thing, is this essential?
Would anyone be able to view it, if you needed a database of addresses?
TBH, I wouldn't want anybody finding out where I live if I had a particularly nice car
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Ian
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Its not out of my control, I told everyone concerned on the night how utterly disgusted I was with the behaviour, and I've also stated that Joe isn't welcome at future events.
We could revoke the memberships within the current system. You going to deal with the complaints about that one?
And if no one owns up to the passenger? You let that one go?
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Steve
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Originally posted by SabasSRi
About the address thing, is this essential?
Would anyone be able to view it, if you needed a database of addresses?
TBH, I wouldn't want anybody finding out where I live if I had a particularly nice car
nope, would be secret, your address is already on hundreds of databases, this wuld be no different
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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quote:
Originally posted by SabasSRi
About the address thing, is this essential?
Would anyone be able to view it, if you needed a database of addresses?
TBH, I wouldn't want anybody finding out where I live if I had a particularly nice car
No its entirely private and subject to our obligations under Data Protection Act which means we're legally bound to only process it in the ways which we tell you at the time we take the data, and also to keep it safe.
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Steve
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Originally posted by Ian
Its not out of my control, I told everyone concerned on the night how utterly disgusted I was with the behaviour, and I've also stated that Joe isn't welcome at future events.
We could revoke the memberships within the current system. You going to deal with the complaints about that one?
And if no one owns up to the passenger? You let that one go?
if you have no proof, yes you will have to let it go
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Ian
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And if they travelled to the show in one car and home in another? You ban two prems?
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Steve
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no it would be the responsibility of the bringer
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SabasSRi
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okay, I'll go along with whatever you guys decide to do, and I'll renew my premium membership next year whatever happens
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