Bart
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Im looking for some constructive criticism for our new website;
http://www.bridgesltd.co.uk
Its not FF friendly im afraid 
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
Its not FF friendly im afraid
nuf said, as are a lot of FF users these days.
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James
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
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Originally posted by Bart
Its not FF friendly im afraid
nuf said, as are a lot of FF users these days.
Agreed
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RyanSxi
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had a quick browse, looking really professional 
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AndyKent
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company logo is a little too high IMO. Perhaps not to deep so it doesn't cover so much of the page at the top - width is fine.
oh, and must be FF compatible - loose users otherwise if they can't even see the site.
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James
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I'll have a look at it on FF when im home tonight, I already gave you my general opinions on it by u2u though. Looking very good. My new website will be live this weekend
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Bart
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i dont know enough to make it ff compatible.
tbh though, ff only makes up a small percentage of users, and typically these are younger people, not the sort of people viewing this website.
IE is usually implimented accross the board with most companies (not all).
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Dom
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use frames or tables and it will work it 90% of browsers - its the DIVs that will cause you problems as IE/FF having different views on them 
Personally i would split it into frames, one for the logo, menu, main body and a footer frame - as the only bit that seems to change is the body information 
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James
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Originally posted by Dom
use frames or tables and it will work it 90% of browsers - its the DIVs that will cause you problems as IE/FF having different views on them
Personally i would split it into frames, one for the logo, menu, main body and a footer frame - as the only bit that seems to change is the body information
Frames are gay and tables are going to be phased out, if you want a fully XHTML/DDA compliant site you can't use either
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Dom
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Originally posted by James
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Originally posted by Dom
use frames or tables and it will work it 90% of browsers - its the DIVs that will cause you problems as IE/FF having different views on them
Personally i would split it into frames, one for the logo, menu, main body and a footer frame - as the only bit that seems to change is the body information
Frames are gay and tables are going to be phased out, if you want a fully XHTML/DDA compliant site you can't use either
thats a load of bollocks and hype, frames and tables will ALWAYS work as it's the basis of html - if it works, leave it thats what i say, plus it works on ALL browsers something which divs don't...like shown on barts site 
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James
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Yes but divs will work on all browsers
one day
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James
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And out of frames and tables i'd pick tables
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Bart
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hmm.. decisions decisions.
Ive used tables/frames like 5/6 years ago when i first started getting to know websites. and Several ppl slated it because i was using them.
Its a mixed feeling i think
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James
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Well I do web development for a living so I have to make sure all sites are compliant to all standards etc and these days divs are the only way to get that.
I'd much rather use tables though.
I've just finished redesigning my own website and I've come across a very fucking annoying height related bug in firefox that I can't fix 
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Dom
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james - divs isn't a standard though, ie and firefox both have there own views on what a specific div tag does, hence why barts website doesn't display correctly. And until theres a standard, then i dont see why tables/frames should be forgotten, especially as majority of browsers will display them the same!
Still don't understand why people slate tables or frames/iframes, visually they'll do the same as using divs on a layout. Like they say, there are many ways to skin a cat!
As for choosing tables or frames - frames are useful if parts of the layout doesn't change, like on Barts website the logo, menu, footer etc Tables would mean sending reocurring data to the client, which in turns wastes bandwidth (the last thing you want to do!) and updating means hunting the sections down in every page!
Or use a combindation of the two, which is what i would do thinking about it rather than straight frames. And use an iframe (floating frame) on the mainbody section - would work in all browsers and a bandwidth saver at the same time!
Obviously you could use php with includes to do something similar.....
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James_DT
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Safari shows the header image over the main text and navbar so you can't see or select the top 4 or 5 choices.
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Steve
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i personally think firefox is gay, designers should stop designing there websites to be FF compatible, FF should start designing there browser to be compatible 
had headaches galore making some features FF compatible on vagweb, and some still dont work, although its mainly down to javascript problems
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John
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It doesn't work properly in IE7 or opera and though I haven't tried it myself or firefox.
You must have used stuff that wasn't even nearly a standard?
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Steve
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its all div tags, no frames thats why
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John
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So it doesn't work in anything accept probably IE6?
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Steve
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doesnt appear too
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Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
Its not FF friendly im afraid
I've viewed it using Firefox and all seemed ok. 
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Dan B
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1) I'm guessing that says "Welcome to Bridges Electrical Engineers Ltd" in the logo at the top, but since it's blue-on-blue, it's very hard to tell...
2) The "Mechanical, Electrical Instrumentation Control & Automation" bit is half in the top-image and half on the white background.
3) Similarly to (2), the top-option in the menu on the left is halfway into the top-image.
4) In fact, the image at the top cuts into all of the pages, leaving text/images/whatever partway into that image.
Browser: Opera 9.00
{edit - having now checked it in IE, it looks like Opera isn't seperating the top-image and the rest of the page underneath, it's just slapping the image right on top}
[Edited on 30-08-2006 by Dan B]
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i personally think firefox is gay, designers should stop designing there websites to be FF compatible, FF should start designing there browser to be compatible
had headaches galore making some features FF compatible on vagweb, and some still dont work, although its mainly down to javascript problems
thing is steve, IE is far from the HTML standards and Microsoft started to implement features such as DHTML and routines which no other browser could render.
Mozilla/Mosaic engine (firefox/opera/netscape/mosaic) follow the standards a lot closer, but obviously all browsers have there own functions and ways to render the same information!
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Steve
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as most people use IE i personally think FF should make there browser compatible with sites that are designed around IE.
i didnt have any problems with html on my site, or dhtml, it was the javascript, which has nothing to do with IE. FF loads the page first then the javascript which is what was causing the errors
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