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Matt H
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15th Aug 06 at 12:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by CorsAsh
If someone says "hot hatch" to me, I think Golf Mk1...



I was just writing something similar
Filby1
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Iconic......Golf Mk1 GTI yes. But i would say the same also of Clio in the Wiliams guise... And what of the other hot little sports cars..

205 GTI,Saxo VTS and 106 GTI?? i would say in some sence there all icons of there day
neiliosxi
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quote:
Originally posted by Jambo
quote:
Originally posted by neiliosxi
quote:
Originally posted by ainsley_brader
since when did the williams become "the most iconic hot hatch"


Read mays edition of evo pal


So cos evo says it it must be true


ffs, I was pointing out an article that stated this. You wouldnt know, you probably cant afford evo its £3.50
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To me "the most iconic" hatchback would surely be the one that started the hatchback scene, so I'd say the Mk1 Golg GTi would be it, not a french tin can
BabyBlade
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i wouldnt say the one that started it, but the one that stands out as the ultimate hatch imo.

either way it aint a williams or a 2.0 corsa..
Jambo
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quote:
Originally posted by neiliosxi

ffs, I was pointing out an article that stated this. You wouldnt know, you probably cant afford evo its £3.50



What a whitty comeback! I can afford evo and buy it regularly thank you. I would like to welcome you to corsasport.co.uk where to be a member it requires a sense of humour


So please kindly G T F
R Lee
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I've had a tinkle with a williams before.
I'm guessing his was standard. My car was pulling away on the straights.
Not that much in it.

SportBoy
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well im a mechanic so being as french cars are a pain in the arse to work on in genral id always pick the corsa!
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i love these threads how the fuck do you compare one to anything let alone a standard car

[Edited on 15-08-2006 by Adam_B]
Marc
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15th Aug 06 at 18:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is Corsa 2.0 Damsel by any chance?

[Edited on 15-08-2006 by Marc]
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Not sure where they guy is getting his Focus price from either, Ford quote £17520.
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I have driven both and trying not to be biased, the corsa has a totally different power delivery, a lot more agressive and raw, you get that instant pull anywhere in the rev range whereas the willy seems to be a little more refined and tamed. it is a quick car but after numerous tests and battles i can confirm my corsa feels faster and pulls harder, but the willy handles soo much better and is nicer to drive (slightly more relaxing)
BabyBlade
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Not sure where they guy is getting his Focus price from either, Ford quote £17520.


Yeah I kinda had to point that out.

I really dont care about the arguement and I wont be able to afford one in a long time, never been in one but the facts must be put forward!!
sxi boy
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how many races (bar the strip) occur on long straight roads anyway??

Personally i would have thought that the two would be pretty evenly matched in a straight line as power to weight must be similar?? however round bends i would certainly expect the williams to have an advantage.

clio vs corsa day anyone??
Mistamist
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Yes they are good round bends, but unless you know how to drive "Properly" it doesnt make a blind bit of difference, for instance, i can drive my corsa against my mate in the clio and beat him hands down be it on straights and corners, but i can also drive his clio and beat my corsa on the same section of road. its all really in the drivers ability, knowing how a car will respond when pushed hard and how to react when you start pushing it beyond its limits.
sxi boy
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^^^ very true
BabyBlade
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If your pushing it beyond its limits, you just sit there and see where you end up.

knowledge where your racing is essential too.
Tom N
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Why is there so much badge snobbery? It happens with everyone. If it's a good car, accept and appreciate it

'Steve 740' clearly feels strongly about Corsa engine conversions-

'The willy would eat the corsa alive. I remember doing a red top corsa conversion and afterwards wondering why the customer bothered! Didnt feel quick at all. Piece of sh*t'

Another interesting quote from someone called 'Chewy'-

'Now excuse me while i go spit on a vauxhall.'

Every forum has internet warriors, what a shame.

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