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corsapower

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12th Jan 06 at 21:45

i need a bottom end for my corsa sport 1.4 and i can get hold of a 1.6 botto end cheap will it still run fine will it be any faster or slower.
thanks adam

broster

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12th Jan 06 at 21:56

it will be a 1.6 not a 1.4

corsapower

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12th Jan 06 at 22:01

but for it to be a 1.6 wont i need to change injectors ecu inlet manifold etc?

broster

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12th Jan 06 at 22:03

all the same

corsapower

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12th Jan 06 at 22:07

oh rite so it will be fine to fit it then i shouldnt have any problems with my standard 1.4 setup

broster

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12th Jan 06 at 22:11

will fit fine yes and be a bit faster.

corsapower

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12th Jan 06 at 22:12

oh great well i will try and get it tomorrow im fed up of pushing it round my garden when i want to do something to it.
thanks for your help mate

DaNnY_LaD

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12th Jan 06 at 23:00

how much is a 1.6 bottom end and were could u get it from....So i wudnt have to upgrade ur engine mines a 1.4i 16v sport so i could do the same...

5chaap2k

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12th Jan 06 at 23:52

x16xe manifold and ports on the head are bigger..

but it will be a 1600cc engine and run properly..

but with more torque and lesser bhp then an actual x16xe

but will run fine however.. i dont know about the ECU..

5chaap2k

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12th Jan 06 at 23:56

X14XE (+/- 48mm)

X16XE (55mm)

inlet

x14xe:

x16xe:

[Edited on 12-01-2006 by 5chaap2k]

corsapower

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13th Jan 06 at 15:44

hi i can get it from a friend for about £30. well i will maybe change other parts in time but as long as it will fun fine for now thats all im bothered about.
cheers

MR2Mike

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13th Jan 06 at 15:45

very interesting thread. shame the corsa is going now.

mwg

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13th Jan 06 at 15:59

Are the X16XE and the X14XE identical to look at from the outside? Cos if they are there would be no way of an insurance company knowing unless they took it apart and measured everything.

I wouldn't recommend not telling your insurance company, just interested

richysport

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13th Jan 06 at 17:05

so to change a x14xe into a x16xe what parts would you need from the x16xe

Ry_B

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13th Jan 06 at 17:22

quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
Are the X16XE and the X14XE identical to look at from the outside? Cos if they are there would be no way of an insurance company knowing unless they took it apart and measured everything.

I wouldn't recommend not telling your insurance company, just interested

AFAIK they look the same from the outside yeah.

Dave A

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13th Jan 06 at 17:52

head and inlet manifold is different as shown above, as is one of the cams and the ecu map.

Rileysport

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13th Jan 06 at 19:32

x14xe head on a 1.6 bottom end is similar to an xel lump 102-103 bhp i think, change the cams for 1.6 ones and you may see more, ive got some x16xe cams laying around btw

5chaap2k

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13th Jan 06 at 21:32

me too

willing to ship if all goes well with the kentcams for another csports member

Cybermonkey

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13th Jan 06 at 23:24

quote:
Originally posted by SRi-Co
x14xe head on a 1.6 bottom end is similar to an xel lump 102-103 bhp i think, change the cams for 1.6 ones and you may see more, ive got some x16xe cams laying around btw

100bhp, but about 110lb/ft. and the X14XE and X16XE look different anyhow. smaller cam cover on the 14

ianofbhills

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14th Jan 06 at 18:09

It just so happens i've got a 1600 bottom end in the for sale section on here.

http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=256838

i have got the 16xe ecu, cams, and complete inlet manifold too

corsapower

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15th Jan 06 at 01:00

well i went to look at it today and im getting it on monday so hopefully i will have it back in the car by the weekend

corsapower

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16th Jan 06 at 17:33

rite ive got it ive just got a few more questions the engine is out of a 1.6 8v astra, wil i need to change anything off the bottom end from my 1.4 to the 1.6 or will it all be the same. oil pickup, sensors, oil pump etc.
thanks

5chaap2k

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16th Jan 06 at 17:44

why didnt u just get the correct lump? 8v will have some differences.. pistons for example :/

get a 16v lump not an 8v :/

or is your engine orignaly an 8v?

corsapower

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16th Jan 06 at 17:57

no my original engine is a 16v but i got the bottom end local and cheap, i got told that the bottom ends were all the same apart from bores

Tiger_kpt

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17th Jan 06 at 13:13

You'll be creating the X16XEL as found in the Astra mate. X16XE bottom end with the X14XE head. X14XE head has smaller inlet/exhaust ports than the X16XE head and the exhaust cam also has a lower lift and duration that that of the X16XE. Be producing 100BHP like the X16XEL, but MAYBE a little more, around 101-102BHP if using the X14XE Corsa inlet manifold over the X16XEL Astra inlet manifold which is more restrictive. Hope that helps.

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