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corsa120
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13th Sep 05 at 10:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

why u laughing ive had successful tank for 4yrs now and its 200g tank and yeh i did leave it to cycle for about 4 weeks when i first got it, but b4 that i have 3 smaller tanks and i never cycled these properly and they were all highly successful

so ur saying these fish go from tankl to tank they never have a normal habitat
GREG 1
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Cardinals are
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
Ok dude, so shall i leave it empty till say weekend then do a water change ? (seems pointless??) and then introduce my worst / strongest fish only for a week ?


No...

1. Fill the tank up with water and use conditioners to remove the chlorine
2. Add an ammonia source (goldfish, pure ammonia, etc.)
3. Leave for a week or so with the filter, heaters, etc. running while the bacteria grows in the filter
4. Do a 40% water change to remove the Nitrates (this is what the filter changes the ammonia into)
5. Add a few of your fish (most hardy)
6. Add a few more about 5 days later, etc. etc. etc.

This will give your filters a chance to build up slowly and your fish the best chance to survive.
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i know how to do it all, just not keen on typing for too long
corsa120
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ha ha yeh neon tetras are hardy oops no there not try a platy first
Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
why u laughing ive had successful tank for 4yrs now and its 200g tank and yeh i did leave it to cycle for about 4 weeks when i first got it, but b4 that i have 3 smaller tanks and i never cycled these properly and they were all highly successful

so ur saying these fish go from tankl to tank they never have a normal habitat


what size is your 200Gal?

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some people also add a bit of gravel or a rock from an established aquarium to help baterica get started
GREG 1
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13th Sep 05 at 10:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cosmo your a ledgend mate.

Take has been filled up since Sunday, everything is in (apart from a few more plants i want to add) but mostly ready to go.

(Although it seems rather empty so maybe i should get something for inside the tank?)

I have add the dechlorinater etc aswell..
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Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
some people also add a bit of gravel or a rock from an established aquarium to help baterica get started


yup, its one of the easiest ways to speed up the process.

If your filter can be removed from your old tank, add it to the new one with your exisiting fish and this will take care of the filtering while your new one builds up the bacteria!
Graham
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some people also add a bit of gravel or a rock from an established aquarium to help baterica get started


i used two filter pads that i had soaked in our tanks at work for a few weeks. even then i still left the tank for a fornight and added two fish every three weeks.
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cosmo can i ask what filter your using?
Cosmo
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Originally posted by GREG 1
Cosmo your a ledgend mate.

Take has been filled up since Sunday, everything is in (apart from a few more plants i want to add) but mostly ready to go.

(Although it seems rather empty so maybe i should get something for inside the tank?)

I have add the dechlorinater etc aswell..


your all set then mate. Just carry on with that list and it'll be running in no time!

Dont forget to keep up with the weekly water changes (about 20% IMO) after it is set-up or you'll soon have a problem!
GREG 1
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13th Sep 05 at 10:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I can add the plants and the rocks / pebbles from my old tank is that helps ???

Problem is all my fish are in there so could cause probs and boredom for them ?
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cosmo can i ask what filter your using?


The only tank Ive got up and running at the moment is the Rio 400 (115Gal) and it has a built in filter which is running at around 750GPH.

On the 265Gal and 150Gal pictured I had a wet/dry (sump) filter which I had running at 4x tank size an hour (this was so the water had a better retention time in the sump)

I'm picking up my new 180 and 150Gal at the weekend and Im going to run one centralise 75Gal wet/dry, all plumbed in with rigid pipe.
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Originally posted by GREG 1
I can add the plants and the rocks / pebbles from my old tank is that helps ???

Problem is all my fish are in there so could cause probs and boredom for them ?


Grab one of your mums old par of tights, shove some of the gravel from the old tank in one of the legs, tie it up and put it in the new filter next to the filter material.

The bacteria in the gravel will double every 24hrs and grow onto the media quicker
Graham
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13th Sep 05 at 10:23   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sweeeeet

still waiting on my ehiem to be delievered. wet/dry external, internal heated, so tank looks a bit better
Cosmo
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Originally posted by Graham
sweeeeet

still waiting on my ehiem to be delievered. wet/dry external, internal heated, so tank looks a bit better


Is that one of the pro series ones? I've heard nothing but good stuff about those
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
why u laughing ive had successful tank for 4yrs now and its 200g tank


what size is your 200Gal?




looks like he soon went away when he couldnt say what size a 200Gal tank is
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yes Eheim Pro wet/dry cant remember the exact name as the brouchure's at work been saving for a while for one. the fluval 204 i have on at the moment it in need of an upgrade. although it still works with no problems
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by corsa120
why u laughing ive had successful tank for 4yrs now and its 200g tank


what size is your 200Gal?




looks like he soon went away when he couldnt say what size a 200Gal tank is


i get it at work all the time. i ask "so how big is your tank then?"
and get a reply "errr 150 litres mate"
so then i ask about the dimensions and they just put their hands out and go
"this big"
GREG 1
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13th Sep 05 at 10:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by GREG 1
I can add the plants and the rocks / pebbles from my old tank is that helps ???

Problem is all my fish are in there so could cause probs and boredom for them ?


Grab one of your mums old par of tights, shove some of the gravel from the old tank in one of the legs, tie it up and put it in the new filter next to the filter material.

The bacteria in the gravel will double every 24hrs and grow onto the media quicker


Are you serious ?
In the filter ??

I was just going to handball them in and make them look good
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Are you serious ?
In the filter ??

I was just going to handball them in and make them look good


If you put them in the filter for now (not lose as they may fuck something up!) then the bacteria will colonize on the filter pads. After that they can go in the tank.

The good bacteria cant float in the water so it wouldnt do much good if its not next to the filter pads!
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Originally posted by Graham
yes Eheim Pro wet/dry cant remember the exact name as the brouchure's at work been saving for a while for one. the fluval 204 i have on at the moment it in need of an upgrade. although it still works with no problems


Ive had a fluval 404 in the past and started off OK but then decided to get really loud and piss me off!
Graham
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doing it in the filter means that the bacteria is able to grow onto the foam filter pads quicker and easier. its like filter media in theory, in my filter i have ceramic, carbon, foam, polyester and another type of ceramic pre filter.
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Graham
yes Eheim Pro wet/dry cant remember the exact name as the brouchure's at work been saving for a while for one. the fluval 204 i have on at the moment it in need of an upgrade. although it still works with no problems


Ive had a fluval 404 in the past and started off OK but then decided to get really loud and piss me off!


ive had mine for about a year now and its going ok, annoying thing is, after ive cleaned the cannister out, and prime the thing again, all the crap comes out the pipes into the tank again but now just have to put a net in front of the outlet.

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