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Seirrah
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11th Apr 05 at 15:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi all, I've a bit of a problem and hope maybe someone can help.

Recently my car has been having a intermittent problem. When pulling off from stationary the car sometimes hardly moves, just slowly trickling forward. Then in a second or two (seems like ages) the car moves away normally. It's like there is no power in the engine for a second or so. I should mention that this couldbe happening at other times too, but it's not going to be as apparent when moving.

When the car isn't trying to move it isn't revving like the car is out of gear, it's just normal (albeit without any driving engine noise).


I feel like it's happening more often, so any pointers would be very useful.

Thanks

Michael
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11th Apr 05 at 15:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check that the cambelt isn't slipping etc, had this on mine, wasn't cheap to repair after i'd kept driving it in a mood
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11th Apr 05 at 15:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cambelt ---> engine would much itself if it were slipping!!

I say Idle control valve - what lump is it?
3CorsaMeal
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11th Apr 05 at 15:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
Cambelt ---> engine would much itself if it were slipping!!

I say Idle control valve - what lump is it?


well i had a cam belt tensioner that had become loose and whenever i pulled away, car felt really bogged down then it would start going.

cost £560
Seirrah
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11th Apr 05 at 18:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
Cambelt ---> engine would much itself if it were slipping!!

I say Idle control valve - what lump is it?


It's a W reg Sxi, so whatever that is.


Looks like I might need a trip to Vauxhall then.
TOMAS
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11th Apr 05 at 18:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cambelt tensioner loose? Thats lethal mate, if your belt actually slipped it would mash the valves into the pistons and kill the head! What did they charge you £560 for - surely not to JUST replace the belt/tensioner...

Yeah it will be a 1.2 16V, I had the same lump in mine. Really does sound like an idle fault as your struggling when going from idle to accelerating... About £75 I believe from Vaux on trade club...
Michael B
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11th Apr 05 at 18:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Whats your clutch like?
Will94
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11th Apr 05 at 20:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

or could be coolant temp sensor? guess it'd b wierd on a car that new but would cause a fault like that... happened to me on me c12nz
Seirrah
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12th Apr 05 at 10:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Michael B
Whats your clutch like?


Umm, not sure how to answer that. I don't have any problems with it , as far as I know.
Siberia
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12th Apr 05 at 11:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
quote:
Originally posted by TOMAS
Cambelt ---> engine would much itself if it were slipping!!

I say Idle control valve - what lump is it?


well i had a cam belt tensioner that had become loose and whenever i pulled away, car felt really bogged down then it would start going.

cost £560


jesus you were VERY lucky... usually if a tensioner goes the engine goes kamakasi
James R
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12th Apr 05 at 13:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Cahine set up though, so not the same issues as the rubber band counterparts
3CorsaMeal
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12th Apr 05 at 14:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it was the day i bought the car on the drive home.

cost £560 to have most of the head stripped down, and all the pulleys and cog things on side of engine were fcuked.

i wasn't pleased, but got the man who sold it to me to pay for most of it
Seirrah
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20th Apr 05 at 14:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Really annoying now, getting a bit dodgy. It's like i've got my foot on the brake for a second or so during accelerating, very strange!

Defo time to see Mr Vauxhall
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20th Apr 05 at 15:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have the same problem mate, just trickles when accelerating from stationary, then responds...

Ive got use to it now
Seirrah
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20th Apr 05 at 15:20   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well there has got to be something wrong mate, it never use to do it.
Seirrah
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26th Apr 05 at 10:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Well I thought I'd say what happened just incase people using the search button also have the same problem.


I took it to Vauxhall where the Tech 2 test found no problems. Then then went out for drives in it 3 times, changing something each time they returned. I was sat there for about 3 and a half hours reading Mens Health from 1998

They couldn't actually find what was causing the problem, but they : Updated the ecu software, reprogrammed my idle air control valve and cleaned the throttle body.
The cars problem seems to have gone, but idle rpm (and in general) of the engine has shot up. I'm lucky if it lies at 1000rpm after ten minutes of driving. It's also fluctuating, not much but the needle moves 2-5 mm, something it never did before.

I'm wondering whether the new software takes some time to adjust to the car(hence the fluctuations), or if this will remain always. Any info ??



corsaSXI.com
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26th Apr 05 at 18:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have the same prob when setting off it happens at about 1500rpm ish, ive found if i dip the clutch or let the throttle of then bak on its ok is urs the same
Richie
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26th Apr 05 at 18:35   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had that on my ECU upgrade too. After a few weeks it all seemed to have adjusted itself back
Seirrah
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26th Apr 05 at 20:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Weirdest thing is the fluctuations. I can be sat still and the engine will wobble over a range of about 150-250rpm. So you had that Richie ?
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They should stop after a few hundred miles.
Seirrah
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26th Apr 05 at 21:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by corsaSXI.com
i have the same prob when setting off it happens at about 1500rpm ish, ive found if i dip the clutch or let the throttle of then bak on its ok is urs the same


Sounds about the same, but that prob seems to be sorted now. See above for how they sorted it. I only paid for the Tech 2 test (£41 inc VAT).
Seirrah
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26th Apr 05 at 21:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Ian
They should stop after a few hundred miles.


Good good Hopefully my idle rpm will behave itself too

 
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