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corsa_driver
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22nd Feb 05 at 20:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Would a "Green" or "K&N" universal cone filter be any better than a cheap like "max power" filter?
Greg W
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Yes
Ant
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When you say better do you mean better in performance???

If you do I would say the best way to go is a sealed type airbox like the BMC or pipercross VIPER

[Edited on 22-02-2005 by aritchie]
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or just modify your standard airbox. you can get just as good gains from a good job.
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this q has probably been asked millions of times but which make induction kit for sound?
same question for performance?
same question but all round?
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa_driver
Would a "Green" or "K&N" universal cone filter be any better than a cheap like "max power" filter?


As all are universal cones, the fitment will be the same, but the Green and K&N would definately be preferred over the Max Power type.

Power gains would be around the same, but who knows what kind of engine protection (if any) the Max Power filter gives.

Any reason why you're keen to bodge a universal filter on?
corsaSXI.com
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lol
corsaSXI.com
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which would u reccamend for 1.2 16v 1999
Joff
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Originally posted by corsaSXI.com
which make induction kit for sound?
Foam filter, alloy base - Pipercross, etc.
Loudest? Pipercross XL cone.

same question for performance?
Sealed unit "cold air intake" filter or relocated filter, eg Pipercross Viper.

same question but all round?
Depends. If you've got a hairdryer engine, you'll never get a noticeable power gain from any filter but you'll get a lovely sound from an open cone filter.
If you've got a 2.0 engine, you'll get more power for longer with a Pipercross Viper, but it's not as loud as an open cone filter.
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quote:
Originally posted by corsaSXI.com
which would u reccamend for 1.2 16v 1999


BFO / XL.
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Cybermonkey24
or just modify your standard airbox. you can get just as good gains from a good job.


Gains in terms of performance? Minimal if any.
Gains in terms of driveability? Not with the standard airbox (no matter how many swiss cheese holes you drill into it).
Gains in terms of induction note? Not with the standard airbox (no matter how many swiss cheese holes you drill into it).
Gains in terms of extending the life of the filter? Typically higher filter service intervals can be had with a panel filter, mainly because it's not exposed to all the underbonnet crap an open cone filter has to contend with.

alli Ronald
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ive heard alot about this "BFO" cone filter, thinking of getting one - can any1 show me a picutre of one &/or where to get one?

Cheers!
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http://www.pipercross.net/newsletters/xl_1004/
alli Ronald
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Cheers mate nice one,

looks tasty - pop out at lunchtime and buy one i think
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa_driver
Would a "Green" or "K&N" universal cone filter be any better than a cheap like "max power" filter?


Yes yes yes.

Maybe no better on power gains or airflow, but you know you're going to get a product that will FILTER air.

The cheap filters really are an unknown quantity - some of the unoiled cotton gauze filters we've tested only filter 60-70% of particles... compare that to 98% on a Pipercross and K&N.
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by alli Ronald
Cheers mate nice one,

looks tasty - pop out at lunchtime and buy one i think


You're best off speaking to somewhere like Rimstyle / Vaux-Tec. http://www.vaux-tec.co.uk
Joff
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I see I've already replied...
alli Ronald
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bought one locally - 80
looks cool, need to fit it when i get home from work )
Joff
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PK037XL?
alli Ronald
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yep, it was a display model though, but i got them to throw in a cheap cold air feed pipe with chrome ends for 10
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this is my BFO before i sold it. Caused more problems than its worth imo so went back to standard (flat spots, also cost me a new air mass meter). didnt really notice any gain in performance OR induction note! Looked cool tho (shame about the 1.2 bit )



[Edited on 23-05-2005 by Voyto]
alli Ronald
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hmmmmmm interesting... i read a few reviews and comments about it on here and probably 90% of people said it was awsome for induction roar, though very little if any performance gain....

ill bung it on anyways and if it sux ill rip it off and one of you folks can have it
Joff
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quote:
Originally posted by Voyto
this is my BFO before i sold it. Caused more problems than its worth imo so went back to standard (flat spots, also cost me a new air mass meter). didnt really notice any gain in performance OR induction note! Looked cool tho (shame about the 1.2 bit )






The filter wouldn't have damaged your air mass meter, it would have been fitted incorrectly.
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23rd May 05 at 14:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

go for K&N over piper foam (except viper) as i have had both and the piper one sounded rubbish (made whislting sound when i booted it)

also had crap fuel economy wih piperx

overall i have had both and i'd stick with K&N
alli Ronald
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i had a K&N in my escort RST - was...okay at best
had a HKS in my GT4 ST205, was Awsome - but expensive...
never had a PX before so ill give it a go,
think its just down to your own experience imho... ill post my "educated" opinion when ive had it a wee while

[Edited on 23-05-2005 by alli Ronald]

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