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russb
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22nd Nov 04 at 21:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

heya need more help.........again car got plenty of battery coz ive charged it, but wen i turn the key all i get is a 'click' n then nuttin all my electrics ect...work fine but when i turn the key click turn it again click its really annoying me now, its lucky my drive is on a hill so i can bump start it but its a pain coz wen i go work its flat so we have to push to get it goin, n college i park on a hill bout a mile n a half away n walk...its only happened recently but i thought it was time to do summin about it

plz help

ta
lee mitchell
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22nd Nov 04 at 21:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

starter motor gone
russb
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22nd Nov 04 at 21:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

foooooook is that expensive?
Adam-D
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22nd Nov 04 at 22:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i have one-- what engine is it?
ill have to test it first
russb
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22nd Nov 04 at 22:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

its a 1.4 sport engine.

is this deffo the prob tho? it was startin fine on sunday

[Edited on 22-11-2004 by russb]
Adam-D
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22nd Nov 04 at 22:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

check the earths how old is the batterey
check the ignition cap

it may be a mucky connection to the starter

failing that ill try and get my one tested tomorow im not far from you
lee mitchell
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22nd Nov 04 at 22:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

put a jump lead from the earth on the battery to the gearbox etc. did will give it a good earth. if ti starts then its a dodgy earth
russb
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22nd Nov 04 at 22:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok, i think it has more chance to be a dodgy earth since ive recently had a new engine put in...the battery looks about 8 years old....lol it has a tendancy if i leave my cd player on for longer than 4.5mins without the engine it goes flat...ill try those ideas...cheers



does it matter where about on the gearbox it is?

[Edited on 22-11-2004 by russb]
Siberia
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23rd Nov 04 at 08:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

try a new battery first...
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

a battery? ive charged it full, im pretty sure its just its got a dodgy earth ill give em all a go tho...cheers
James_DT
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If the CD player for 4 minutes drains it, what would an engine do to it? Try another battery, or at least try jumping from another car. If it clicks, the starter is trying to turn but can't.
Richie
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:50   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

This was discussed the other day.

The battery may be showing up as fully charged and has a good voltage, but its actually fucked, specially if its 8 years old. If they go flat they dont have a chance of starting a car after going flat so many times.
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so if it clicks....could it mean a dodgy earth?

a battery sounds good n cheap n easy to replace

[Edited on 23-11-2004 by russb]
James_DT
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by russb
so if it clicks....could it mean a dodgy earth?
[Edited on 23-11-2004 by russb]

It could, but I'd check the battery first.
Siberia
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23rd Nov 04 at 13:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by russb
so if it clicks....could it mean a dodgy earth?

a battery sounds good n cheap n easy to replace

[Edited on 23-11-2004 by russb]


even ask your neighbour for a jumpstart... might save you having to buy a battery....
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 14:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

lol ask him every day?
Siberia
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23rd Nov 04 at 14:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

nooo... what if it turns out your battery is ok? you will have just wasted 40-50 quid on a battery.
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 14:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i could do with a new battery anyway....but i will try a jumpstart first.

cheers
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 20:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ok, will earthing the gearbox to the battery with a jump lead actually do anything? and where abouts is the starter motor situated in the engine bay? i take it, it touches the gearbox if your saying to earth it? cheers
Corsa^Dan
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23rd Nov 04 at 21:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

staerter is behind the inlet manifold.
russb
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23rd Nov 04 at 23:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so i will be able to see it if i take the inlet manifold out yea?
myke
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23rd Nov 04 at 23:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

getting the inlet manifold off is no 10 min job.
you can see it if you get your head down next the engine above the gearbox around the header tank area and look at the back of the block.

crap pic but here:
it's the black cylinder behind the two pipes directly above my hand. you can just make it out.

probably be easier to access from underneath if you jack the n/s front up nice and high.
Siberia
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24th Nov 04 at 08:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

taking the starter out is really a ramp job.....
russb
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26th Nov 04 at 18:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right, i have got underneath the car and found the problem, the starter motor is engaged, so when i go to start it, it clicks n tryes to push it out but its already out so it cant
russb
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26th Nov 04 at 21:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

right, i have undone the bolts securing the starter motor to wherever its securing it to (gearbox?) it allows alot of movement, but it dosnt come out...any ideas?

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